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Ep.125 – How to Make Content Creation a Habit

Trying to make content creation a habit? Me too. But how do you do this without it taking over your life? Join me as I dive into an 11-question discovery exercise designed to not only refine your content strategy but also to prioritize your work-life balance.

In This Episode, You’ll Find:

  • Self-Discovery Through Questions: From defining what you truly want in life to recognizing the barriers that hold you back, these questions are tailored to help you reflect and strategize.
  • Practical Insights for Every Creator: Whether you’re aiming to start a family while running a business, or looking to make content creation more enjoyable, this episode offers real, actionable advice.
  • Personal Anecdotes from Alex: Learn from my own journey as I share how I balance ambition with fulfillment, engage with my community, and plan for future content that aligns with my personal and professional goals.

Key Questions We’ll Explore:

  1. What does your ideal life and career look like?
  2. Identifying what you don’t want – setting boundaries in your professional life.
  3. Strategies for tapping into higher fulfillment and purpose.
  4. What do you want to be known for in the digital space?
  5. Planning your business to support the next chapter in your life.

And many more…

Engage with Me:

  • Share Your Insights: After listening send me a DM on Instagram & let me know what you thought!
  • Listen and Transform: Let’s make content creation a habit that fits beautifully into your life, and is more than just an obligation. Tune in to Episode 125 now and start your journey toward content creation that’s fulfilling, fun, and balanced!
  • Get Access to my Notion Resources: Join my VIP list www.alexviplist.com and you’ll automatically get access to all my notion resources. 

Transcript Available Below

Hello, and welcome to the resurgence of my podcast. My name is Alex Beadon, and you’re listening to on purpose with Alex Beadon. And I’m so excited because this is the very first time that I’m ever recording this podcast as both audio and video. I’m so excited to spend time with you guys today, I’ve got a few things I want to chat to you about. So let’s go ahead and dive in. Cheers.

I wanted to share with you guys why I stopped the podcast in the first place. Because if you listen to my most recent episode, which was the last episode of season two, you will have heard me be like, Okay, guys, we’re now going to switch to two episodes a week. And then I just disappeared off the face of the planet. I don’t know, I’m just the kind of person I’m like, sometimes those things happen. Like sometimes life gets in the way, business gets in the way. I know for us, we just launched together we launch. So we were really busy onboarding our new clients and taking care of them, I had a lot of stuff going on in my personal life. And so I just took a step back. And I want to highlight that I think that’s okay. But the important part is like jumping back in and continuing to build that relationship with your audience and with your ideal clients. Now, if I had to answer the question, why did it take me so long to come back? I think the real answer is that I felt so much pressure. And that’s a really beautiful thing to admit, I think because it’s such a normal, natural feeling of being like, Okay, I have this podcast, it was something that people really loved and enjoyed. And you know, I want to bring it back. But I don’t know how I’d ever be able to bring it back in the way that it was once upon a time and really kind of putting my podcast on this pedestal like what it used to be, I have been thinking about what I want the podcast to be like, but I haven’t been taking action. I’ve been stuck in that analysis, paralysis, overthinking everything, and really just trying to make the right decisions before taking any action steps. And I’ve gotten to a point now where I’m just like, I just want to take action, I want to take imperfect messy action, I want to put myself back out there, I want to really let go of the idea that it has to be this perfect thing because it’s never going to be perfect, right. As you can see, we’ve had a change in formats, because this is now audio and video. So that does mean that I will be uploading this onto Youtube as well as onto my podcast. So you will be able to find it in two places. The best place to be updated on when a new episode goes live is to be signed up for my VIP List that is a weekly newsletter that I send out that keeps you updated with the happenings of the Alex Beadon world. Just to be clear, my intention with this podcast is to create as when I please so I’m not promising you that I’m going to be showing up every week or every two weeks, or every day or every month. I’m just showing up when I want to show up. And that’s what feels good and right for me in this moment. So bear with me as we kind of go through this together.

So today, something I really wanted to talk to you guys about is what it means to be a woman with ambition. I just turned 35 years old, go me cheers to that. But one of the things I’ve realized is that I am a woman who is very ambitious. But my relationship to ambition has changed so much over the last few years, I really look back at myself in my early 20s. And I see the way that I was so focused and like so obsessed with my end goal of getting my business to a certain place. And I definitely feel like I’m in a much more evolved space. When it comes to my relationship with ambition. And with my work ethic. I think I’m just in a beautiful place in my life where I’m actually the happiest I’ve ever been. I’m the most fulfilled I’ve ever been. I feel like I’m living in my purpose. And whereas before, so much of my identity was wrapped up in my work and in my ambition, and in proving that like I could show up and work harder than anyone else. And today, I don’t feel that way at all. I’m really leaning into my soft grill era and like wanting to embrace that side of myself that’s like, you know what, I don’t want to work 24 hours a day, like, I don’t want to be stressing out and bad about something that I didn’t get done that day. Like I really just want to create a life for myself that is as easy as possible. I don’t want it to be as easy as possible. I do want to experience challenges, and I do I want to push myself and grow. And I want to be able to lean into my creativity, I want to work. It’s just that I don’t want my work to take over my life. And when I look back at my 20s That’s definitely what was happening now that I’m in my 30s I’ve gotten really clear on what I want and what I don’t want. And I’ve become obsessed about creating that version of my life. And not trying to overwork over push myself, hustle, hustle, hustle, I’m really focused on how do I create my life to be exactly what it is that I want through the use of boundaries through the use of intention through the use of being on purpose when I first created on purpose with Alex Beadon. And the reason why I called it on purpose is because there was like a double meaning right? The first meeting was you were doing something on purpose. I mean, that’s in alignment with you something that makes you feel fulfilled something where you’re like, Oh, yes, this is in alignment with my purpose. And then the second reason was doing something on purpose, which means doing it intentionally doing it strategically being very clear about what it is that you’re trying to create and working backwards from that. And that has continued to remain a very clear focus of mine as I continue down this journey even more so Oh now because I have a better understanding now in my 30s of what my capacity is. And also, I think once you reach your 30s, you know, you’re older, you’re wiser. And the truth is that you have less capacity than you did in your 20s. So whereas in my 20s, I could push and push and push and work and work and work in hustling, hustling, hustle, I just like really don’t have it in me these days. And as I gear up to have a family of my own, as I gear up to, like, create this next stage and phase of my life, I know that that version of myself, that’s not sustainable anymore, right? And so I’ve been getting really clear on like, what is it that I want? And what is it that I don’t want, we’re kind of going through a little exercise here together in terms of like discovering what it is that you want, and how to actually achieve creating content and bring content creation into your life in a way that’s actually going to work for you.

And so as I’m going through this activity, I want you to just know that I am also going to be sharing this in my shared notion. I’m going to have a notion page specifically for my VIP List where I share like all of my notes and my tidbits and my resources. If you’re not on my VIP List, go and sign up and you will get access. I’m going to make sure from now on that every single email that I send out has that link so that you can quickly go and find it. I’m also by the way, I forgot to mention this switching away from season so no longer will this be like season three, episode one, we’re just gonna go straight back to where we were, I believe this is like episode 126. Hey, guys, quick update for me here in the editing room. It’s not episode 126. This is episode 125. And you’ll be able to find the notion links there.

Let’s jump in what is it that I want to have? I want to have a multifaceted life. I don’t want my life to solely revolve around my work. Having said that work is still super important to me, I’m still a very ambitious person, like, I do want to find a lot of purpose and fulfillment in my work. But I don’t want it to be the only thing. So I want to have a very strong family and friends life, I want to feel like an active part of my community. I want to feel like I have hobbies and things that I enjoy. And I want to be able to work on myself outside of work, I don’t want my only personal development tool to be my work, I want to have a multi dimensional life, when I can focus on finding fulfillment outside of my work, I feel like that is what’s going to allow me to really tap into my highest level of fulfillment, my highest level of passion and purpose. And I feel like in doing so, it’s also acting as a model of what I want everyone else to be able to take from me, you know, when you’re creating content like this, when you’re putting yourself out there, when you have a business, especially a business like mine, like my business is Alex Beadon, right? Like, so much of my life is shown in my business. And so I want to live a life that I’m like, I can truly stand behind this and say, this is something I’m proud of, I don’t want everything to just be about work, you know. So that’s like a really big theme for me right now. And so in knowing that, I also have to get clear on what I don’t want. And what I don’t want is to be a slave to my computer all day, I don’t want to feel like I have to be here at this certain time. I want maximum flexibility in my life. And again, as I move into starting a family and entering that next chapter of my life, that’s going to become even more important to me. So setting those boundaries from today, and really making sure that I’m honoring that from today is going to be extremely important.

I feel like up until this point, I’ve done a really good job of being consistent on Instagram, posting to stories, posting to reels, etc. But I want to take it to the next level by having what I like to call a meaty piece of content. This isn’t important for every single business owner in the world for my business, because I have an online business, it is very, very important. And so I know that if I want my business to be where I want it to be in the next two years, five years, 10 years, I need to learn how to create meaty pieces of content, aka, podcasts, YouTube, etc. Something that’s not just like scrollable social media, I need to be implementing that into my daily life and finding a way to make it work for me. And that’s what this episode is all about really is like how can I make content creation work for me, right?

So how do I get back into creating content without it being all consuming? The first thing I started with is asking myself the question, how can I make this fun? I want this to be fun. Like every time I sit down to talk to you guys, I don’t want it to feel like a drug or like a chore. I want it to feel like something I’m excited to do. So today that meant pouring myself a margarita, right, giving myself a little drink. And then filming outside. Like we have a new porch. This is one of my favorite spots. But the point is how do you make it fun for yourself? The next question is how can I make this easier? Right? So one of the big things that I was struggling with is if you have a podcast, how do you market that podcast. And so me filming this on video is also a way for me to make this easier for myself because I can take these videos, create multiple tiktoks and reels out of them and post them on other platforms, right that is making my job easier. So that’s one of the ways that I’m making it easier. Another way to make it easier that I’ve been trying to focus on and that I’ll be focusing on a lot moving forward is having a weekly schedule where it’s like every week at this time on this date. I know that I’m sitting down to record this, no matter letter was so really just focusing on making it a habit and non negotiable Habit number three, how can I lower my expectations because I’ve noticed with myself that I have such high expectations. Sometimes I’m like, oh my god, it has to be perfect has to be this it has to be that, that I was letting these little things get in my way. So for example, you know, it’s kind of bugging me right now that it’s getting darker. But this is my very first episode, I have to leave room for it to not be perfect. And for me to learn lessons as I go, right. And so embracing imperfections, knowing that it’s going to be hard at first knowing that it’s not going to be perfect. So for example, this is my second time filming this video, I filmed this entire video yesterday. And at the end of it, I realized that I never turned on my microphone. And the audio was horrific. There were birds in the background, it was super distracting. So I had to redo it. And here I am redoing it today, right. So embracing the fact that it’s going to be difficult at first and just agreeing with myself like I’m not going to give up no matter how difficult it gets. I’m not going to give up I’m going to make small changes to make it easier for myself.

Another huge part of this for me is finding a way to remain on brand. When you’re creating content, you can ask yourself, How can I make it fun? How can I make it easy? How can I this how can I that but really and truly this is a business exercise. And it needs to be good for the business, it needs to be on brand for the business. So my business is all about helping small business owners create content for their business show up online market themselves online. Now, from a branding perspective, the brand that I’m going for is your online biz bestie I want to be the person you’re like, oh my gosh, that’s my online business. Bestie right. That’s what I’m going for. So everything that I just said about me making this fun pouring myself a margarita like that’s the behavior of your online biz bestie we’re here with drinking together, we’re having a good time. Like we’re hanging out, we’re liming as we say, here in Trinidad, right here in Trinidad and Tobago, we say lime, and that means to hang out. So if you ever hear me talking about lighting, that’s what it’s all about. Right? So this is very on brand. I’m not someone who’s very corporate or like picture perfect. I really like things to be more casual, laid back fun type of vibe. And that’s exactly what I’m going for. And therefore, all of this is very on brand. And then lastly, it would not be an Alex Beadon video if I didn’t speak to you about mindset, because one of the things that differentiates me and my brand than most in my niche and in my industry, is the fact that I focus on mindsets. Your internal environment makes such a difference on how you show up in the online space. I wrote here, how can I create an internal environment that will support me in this goal of showing up more consistently with my immediate piece of content? So again, my immediate piece of content is YouTube and podcast, right? And I wrote down number one, trust that I will find my voice. Oftentimes, when we’re leading into new content creation, it can feel so scary. We sit down in front of the camera, and we judge ourselves and we’re like, how did that sound? Did I say the right thing? What are they going to perceive me as there’s no space for that there’s no room for that you just need to create. And so I’m creating that internal environment of like, okay, I trust that I’m going to find my voice, I trust that it may be a little bit awkward at first, that’s okay.

And actually, I think that’s my next point here is like leave space for it to be awkward at the beginning. It’s okay, if it’s awkward at the beginning, right? Especially for me like this is the first time I’m ever creating a podcast episode. That’s also a video. And so just getting used to the fact that I not only have to be minding my words and the power of what I’m saying. But I also need to be paying attention to how I’m coming across the lighting, the background, my makeup, my hair, like I’m so used to creating a podcast episode, I just put my headphones on, I’ve got the microphone, like right here, and I’m just like eyes closed, like focusing on every single word coming out of my mouth. I can’t do that anymore, right, I’m adapting. So as I am creating this new format as I’m leaning into this podcasting world, like I need to leave room for it to just be whatever it is, and be cool with that, like just release any expectations that you may have, and let it be what it is, it’s going to be cringy at first and that’s okay, like you’re going to find your voice as you go. So that’s another thing that I’ve been telling myself. And then thirdly, know that it does not have to be perfect. Something that I tell my clients all the time is it doesn’t have to be perfect in order to be profitable. Another great quote is done is better than perfect. And I’m embracing that in this video, or audio depending on if you’re watching or listening to this 100%. Okay, so I hope that you can take all of the tips that I shared with you in this video and really embody them as you go throughout your own week and apply them to whatever it is that you’re trying to do in your own business. Again, I just want to remind you that I will have a specific space on notion I feel like I need to name it. Can you guys help me come up with a name like, what can I name that notion space, it’s only going to be for my VIP List members for people who have signed up for my VIP List. So if you want access VIP list is free. Just go to alexviplist.com and you can sign up there. I need to come up with a name. I’m obsessed with notion and I have a feeling that every episode I’m going to be wanting to share things with you. So that will be like the go to place to find anything that I’m speaking about here on the podcast. And that’s it.

So if you enjoyed this episode, please let me know because it’s my first episode back it means so much to me to hear from you guys and to hear your thoughts and your feedback, any ideas that you may have whether you’re watching this on YouTube or whether you’re listening to this through your podcast app, I would love for you to take two minutes to open up Instagram find me @alexbeadon A L E X B E A D O N and let me know what was your biggest takeaway from today’s first episode back. I’m so excited for the resurgence of the podcast. I hope you are too. It’s time for me to go before it gets super dark here but I’m really looking forward to seeing you next time whenever that may be. Cheers.

S2 Ep.30 – The Story of my First Six-Figure Launch

Today I’m sharing how I had my very first six-figure launch back in 2016 – and it’s not what you expect. 

This is a short and sweet episode coming in at 16 minutes – and it highlights the importance of ONE incredibly powerful thing that made all the difference in my sales (that most people ignore).

Can you spare 16 minutes to learn the one thing I did that made all the difference and got me to six-figure launches?

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Transcript Available Below

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So you want to scale your online business while purposely prioritizing your most joyful, free, and luxurious life. This Podcast is your weekly dose of connection and self-reflection. As you set strategic intentions along the way, it’s time to prime your mind embrace your pace, and take consistent action towards creating what you truly want from your online business without sacrificing the small moments all around you that are so worth treasuring. So take a deep breath, relax, and let’s get you back to where you belong. On purpose.

You’re listening to season two, Episode 30 of On Purpose with Alex Beadon. And I am so excited for you to listen to today’s episode because it’s on one of my favorite topics. Today I’m going to be sharing with you exactly what I did in order to help my first six-figure launch ever and it’s most likely not what you’re thinking. I didn’t drastically change my strategy. I didn’t drastically change my visibility or the way that I was showing up. It was something else that made a massive difference. And that’s what I’m going to be sharing with you in today’s episode. So definitely listen through till the end and let me know what you think. I’m Alex speed in your favorite launch strategist and your guide into the online business world. I’ve had an online business selling digital products since 2011. And I’ve been helping online businesses scale through launching since 2016. I’ve been featured in Forbes and Entrepreneur and I’ve worked with clients ranging from solopreneurs to multi-million dollar small businesses. Here at Team Beadon. We pride ourselves on being the industry-leading destination for all things launch strategy. Our 12-month program together we launch teaches our signature rinse-and-repeat launch strategy that has helped course creators and membership site owners from all over the world to have their best launches yet. Our goal is to give you the tools to create a wildly profitable online business while prioritizing your most joyful life so that you can truly experience time, freedom, location, freedom, and financial freedom. I’m so excited for you to listen to today’s story all about how I had my very first ever six-figure launch. But before we jump into that, I have to say a quick shout-out to Christine who you can find over on Instagram at @paidcopywriter. She is one of our Together We Launch members and she just left a post in our circle community celebrating because she just hit her biggest revenue month in the history of her business. Since starting her course back in 2020. She said her goal with Together We Launch was to stop treating her digital course business as a side hustle and transition away from one on one service provider work as a copywriter. And since joining together we launch she’s so happy with all the growth growth that’s happened in just a few short months. And yeah, she’s launching in one week’s time right alongside me. And I’m just so so proud of her. So just wanted to give her a little shout-out here on the podcast. Now let’s jump into the topic at hand. This is the story of my very first six-figure launch. And of course, the reason why I want to share this with you guys today is because I am currently in the middle of promoting the ultimate launch bootcamp. This is a five-day virtual boot camp. That’s all happening online. It’s 100%, free made specifically for course creators and membership site owners to help introduce them to so many of the things that I love about launching that have helped me tap into those multiple five, six, and multiple six-figure launches. So I’m really excited to share the bootcamp with you. If you haven’t signed up already, I’m going to leave a link in the show notes or you can sign up for free at ultimate launch bootcamp.com. I hope to see you there. All right, so let’s jump into the story of how I had my very first six-figure launch. The year was 2016, bearing in mind that I have been selling digital products since 2011. So it had been it literally took me five years to figure out how to have my first six-figure launch. And so many lessons were rolled into what eventually got me to this point. But there’s one thing in particular that I did for this launch that I had never done for any of my launches previous. Now I want to be super clear that everyone is different, right? And so this was an area that I was really struggling with. This may not be an area that you struggle with. There are so many different components of what makes a good launch. And don’t worry, I’m going to introduce you to them all inside of the Ultimate Launch Bootcamp. But today, the one that I want to share with you is one that really made the biggest difference in how I was able to show up during this launch And in what I believe ultimately helped me reach that six-figure launch goal, which had been a goal of mine for such a long time and honestly felt so magical and like such a relief when I finally was able to get there. And so here it is, here’s the number one thing that I did differently from all of my past launches, I prioritized my energy. And I know that sounds like very woowoo and very out there. But here’s the thing, whether you like it or not, the energy with which you show up matters immensely, as to how people feel when they consume your content. If you have an energy that is very much in a lack, lack mentality, if you are someone who believes that things aren’t going to work out for you, if you’re going through your launch, and you’re kind of thinking to yourself, why would anyone want to buy from me, these are all very bad signs, and they translate through the content that you’re creating. And here’s the thing, when we are going through a launch, of course, we want to follow a system. Again, I’m going to walk you through that in the ultimate launch bootcamp. But we also want to be showing up, we want to be visible, we want to be creating content, putting ourselves out there telling the story of our launch, making sure that people see us as an authority, we have to be showing up over the period of the launch, even in the lead up to the launch, it’s very important that we are building that relationship with our audience that they know like and trust us, and that they know what to expect from us, right? If you’re showing up during that launch, and you feel like you’re annoying people, if you feel like you’re bothering people, when you send an email if you get full of anxiety, because you’re like, oh my gosh, I’m gonna get unsubscribes all of these things are negative, energetic things to be holding on to. And ultimately, they’re creating resistance in you being able to reach your full potential and being able to reach that pinnacle of success that you’re trying to create in your life and business. And so what I did was I really focused on my energy at all times, I set an alarm on my phone. And every few hours, I would ask myself, I would go off. And the question would be, how are you doing in this moment? And I would have these energetic check ins with myself to just stop and ask myself, like, how am I doing in this moment? How am I feeling? Where’s my energy at? And what do I need to be doing in this moment to better take care of myself. We can talk about self care a lot. We all know the basics, getting enough sleep, making sure that you’re drinking enough water, making sure that you are exercising, eating well, all of those things matter a lot. But what we often forget is the soul. Are we taking care of ourselves. From a soul perspective, do we feel charged up? Or do we feel completely energetically drained. And if you’re feeling that sense of energetically drained, and you’re showing up with that feeling, people can smell it from a mile away, and no one wants to buy from someone who has that feeling of energetic drain, right? You want to show up and you want to feel excited to be there. You want people to be able to feel that energy from you, like you are in the right place at the right time you are on purpose you are fulfilled you are in alignment with the work that you’re meant to do in the world. You want people to be magnetically drawn to you. And so taking that time to check in with myself, and always prioritizing my energy no matter what is the number one thing that I did, that led to me having my very first ever six figure launch. And it was not a linear process. Throughout the entire launch. There were many times when I felt like wow, things are not going the way I want them to go. My numbers are not where I want them to be. And I would be filled with this sense of dread and anxiety. I think that’s normal during a launch, it happens to the best of us. But what we need to be able to do is to have that power inside of ourselves to reclaim the energy that we want to be showing up with. And listen like I am a launch Coach. And this is still something that I have to deal with every single time that I launch. In fact, for this launch, I even went so far as to hire a coach to help me through the process and to support me through the process because I don’t believe that I’m bulletproof. I know that there is space for me to grow. There’s room for me to be better in this department. And I want to continue to invest in myself, I believe in the power of investing in myself.

And so during this launch back in 2016 I was always checking in with myself and being very honest with myself about how was I energetically feeling and where was I on the scale of zero being you know, I feel completely energetically drained. I don’t want to be doing this. I don’t believe in my offer. I feel like a failure and it hasn’t even ended and then On the other end of the scale, the 10, which is like, Wow, I feel powerful, I feel magnetic, I feel aligned with the work that I’m doing in the world. I know that there’s people out there who will benefit from this, I know that my job is to just find them and connect with them. Where are you on that scale, checking in with myself and asking myself that question. And if I wasn’t at an eight, a nine or a 10, I would take the time to pause whatever it is that I was working on whether it was an important email, or whether it was a live that I had to do, I would pause everything and get realigned in whatever way that I possibly could. For me, in that moment, what I used to love doing was meditation, I would use essential oils. And I would really harness the energy that I had inside of myself to remind myself of why I’m doing what I’m doing, and to reconnect with my vision, reconnect with the goal. When you’re going through your launch, you need to believe in the end result, you need to believe in that final outcome no matter what you need to hold space for that vision. Even if it currently doesn’t look like it’s gonna pan out, I needed to hold on to that vision, I needed to believe it with every single ounce of my being. And that’s what I focused on throughout the entire launch. Every time I fell off the horse. I showed myself self compassion, I paused what I was doing. And I reconnected with the vision at hand, I reconnected with a number of people that I wanted to attract into my into my course into my program, which at the time, I think it was like 112 people, I remember that being a very important number. And that’s exactly what happened. And what’s interesting as well is like I sat it wasn’t linear, right? I remember being 75% of the way through the open cart and being like this launch is a fail. But and this is what I tell my together, we launch members all the time, it ain’t over till it’s over. We had it together, we launch member Elizabeth Stiles who always used to say sell through the silence. And those are two mantras that I carry with me and that I share with my launchers moving forwards, like these are two things that you absolutely have to do is hold on to that vision. It ain’t over till it’s over, sell through the silence and believe believe believe, if you’re not believing that it’s possible, then it’s a complete and utter waste of your time, your energy has to be there. I don’t care who laughs at this who thinks it’s unimportant. Like there is a reason why athletes visualize what what it is that they need to do before they do it. It’s because it works. It is scientifically proven that your brain does not know the difference between if something is happening in real life, versus if you are imagining it inside of your brain and visualizing it inside of your brain. So let this be your reminder that if you’re not using visualization techniques, maybe it’s time that you start, if you’re not connecting with that vision, and with that dream, every single day of your launch, if you’re not reminding yourself, this is what I am here to do. This is how many people I’m here to serve. This is how many people I’m here to change the lives of. That’s what you need to be doing. And I can tell you right now, that was the number one difference that I had, that I made in my launches that made all of the difference. And I want to remind you that it doesn’t have to be perfect in order to be profitable. If your launch doesn’t unfold perfectly, guess what? It’s okay. No launch ever unfolds perfectly. It’s okay. What matters is that you’re putting your best foot forward, and that you’re making your best attempt and that you’re staying in that energetic high and prioritizing it above all else, in fact, and this is a really interesting fact, during that launch back in 2016, one of the days of my LME, which don’t worry, I’ll explain all about that in the ultimate launch bootcamp. But one of the days of my LME I had to postpone. And the reason I had to postpone is because I checked in with myself. And I realized that I was burning out I realized that I was pushing myself too much. And I realized that my energy was not in that pure high place that it needed to be. And that’s okay. But what we need to learn how to do as launchers is to be able to read ourselves to be able to have that indicator that temperature read to be able to understand what is it that we need in order to show up and be our best? Right? So I hope that this episode resonates with you. If it does, you are most likely going to be an absolute perfect fit for the ultimate launch bootcamp. Because I’m not only going to be teaching you about launch strategy, although there will be a lot of that. I’m also going to be teaching you about the winner’s mindset that you need to have in order to have an achieved Have your best launches yet. So if you haven’t already signed up, definitely go and do that. Like I said, it is 100% free, you have nothing to lose. And I’m so proud of the community that we’ve brought together already. So go on and head on over to ultimate launch bootcamp.com Make sure that you’re signed up. We are kicking it off with a welcome party on September 10. The boot camp itself actually starts Monday, September 11, through Friday, September 15. And then of course, the doors will be opening to together we launch so if you have been keeping your eyes out for together we launch, then this will be your time to join. So if you have any questions at all on this episode, please feel free to message me at Alex Beadon over on Instagram. I’m sending you so much love from my heart to yours and I really hope that this story resonated with you deeply as it always does with me every single time I share it. Sending you so much love. Talk to you next time. Bye bye.

S2 Ep.29 – How to Brand Yourself Online with Diana Jakubcova: Personal Branding Tips for Course Creators

If there’s one thing we all want, it’s to stand out in our individuality online.

And I don’t know about you but, the online space can sometimes feel like there’s a million people out there who are already doing the exact. same. thing.

Sometimes it can feel like your message is drowning in a sea of sameness.

And what’s the point in showing up, if your message is not being felt deeply by those who need it the most?

The question I’ve been asking myself recently is this:

How can you make it so that every touch point with you not only feels cohesive but feels like you?

Whether that’s a blog (like this one), a Reel (like this one), or a website (like this one) … the idea is that your brand catapults through the screen and makes people FEEL. 

That’s what we’re exploring in this week’s episode with my guest, Diana Jakubcova.

In this episode Diana shares:

✅ how to know if your branding is strong

✅ how to accurately express yourself online

✅ specific exercises to develop your personal brand

✅ the inner and outer energetics of a brand

✅ the mistakes online business owners (like you) are making in their brand photo shoots – hopefully you’re not making these mistakes!

✅ and so much more

Resources mentioned in this episode: 

Loved this and want more? Check out our other episodes here.

Spark a conversation! Leave a comment below or say hello @alexbeadon on Instagram.

Transcript Available Below

Alex Beadon 0:03
So you want to scale your online business while purposely prioritizing your most joyful, free and luxurious life. This Podcast is your weekly dose of connection and self reflection. As you set strategic intentions along the way, it’s time to prime your mind embrace your pace and take consistent action towards creating what you truly want from your online business without sacrificing the small moments all around you that are so worth treasuring. So, take a deep breath, relax, and let’s get you back to where you belong. On purpose.

You’re listening to season two episode 29. Of on purpose with Alex Beadon. After I finished recording this episode that you’re about to listen to, I was buzzing with excitement for you to listen to it too. In case you missed it, I recently did a complete revamp of the together relaunch sales page we worked with past together we launch member Galen Mooney of local creative but in the process of trying to find a designer, I stumbled upon the work of Diana Jakobcova. She is the owner and creator of deeply rooted studio, and it’s extremely rare that someone’s design aesthetic stopped me in my tracks on Instagram, but that’s exactly what her Instagram page did. And if you’re curious, you can go and find it at deeply rooted dot studio over on Instagram. I didn’t think much of it. But as I continued to follow her content and learn more about her story, I got more and more intrigued and realize that I needed to have her on the show. Diana studios specializes in building premium brands for service providers, educators and agencies who are deeply rooted in their mission. So why did I have her on the show? Firstly, she clearly has an excellent understanding of personal branding. She has been hired by various communities and global brands like Adobe to host guest expert trainings, and I’m super excited to have her on the show today. If you’ve ever felt lost amongst a ginormous sea of personal brands in the online space, you’re not alone. And this episode is going to give you a lot to think about. But most importantly, this episode will help you craft a brand identity that’s eye catching. And true to who you are. We talked about how to make your brand more magnetic, what the most common pitfalls of personal branding are, and how to master the art of digital charisma. If you’re an educator, a creator or a coach who’s eager to stand out in the online space. This episode is a goldmine of strategies and inspiration. Not only is she a branding expert, but she also has her own digital store where she sells social media templates, funnel kits and more. The way she has set up her online business is fascinating to me. And in this episode, we dive into not only how she follows her intuition to create all of these different products, but how she launches and sells them to get ready for an incredibly gutsy conversation that will help you bring even more self awareness and authenticity to your own personal brand. Keep listening and you’ll see exactly what I’m talking about. I’m Alex speed in your favorite launch strategist and your guide to the online business world. I’ve had an online business selling digital products since 2011. And I’ve been helping online businesses scale through launching since 2016. I’ve been featured in Forbes and entrepreneur, and I’ve worked with clients ranging from solopreneurs to multi million dollar small businesses. Here at Team bieden. We pride ourselves on being the industry leading destination for all things launch strategy, our 12 month program together we launch teachers our signature rinse and repeat launch strategy that has helped course creators and membership owners from all over the world have their best launches yet. Our goal is to give you the tools to create a wildly profitable online business while prioritizing your most joyful life so that you can truly experience time, freedom, location, freedom, and financial freedom. And without further ado, let’s jump into today’s episode. Diana, welcome to the show. I’m so happy to have you here.

Diana Jakubcova 4:02
Hello, I’m super excited about today’s episode. Thank you so much for having me.

Alex Beadon 4:06
Oh, it’s just I can already tell it’s gonna be so good. And you know, I’ve been doing my research. I’ve been like listening to other podcasts that you’ve been on. I’ve been stalking you on Instagram and Instagram is actually where I first found you. And like immediately was drawn to your brand and to just listening to everything that you had to say. So for anyone who’s listening, I’m gonna start this conversation off by saying go and check her out over on Instagram, you can find her deeply rooted dot studio. And I just think, you know, having that kind of brand that immediately causes someone to be so drawn to you is very rare in the online world and I think you’ve done a really good job of it. So I’d love for you to share with us you know, how do you define a good brand and how would someone know if they have a good brand?

Diana Jakubcova 4:56
Oh wow. How how How long can we be here? Basically, right? But I completely agree with you, when it comes to finding just something that’s different online these days, right? Because like, as much as a lot of people like to think that they are different, they’re not, I’ll be honest, they’re not. And they even invested in branding. But I feel like because it’s so easy to get influenced these days.

The stage where you get inspired by something, or someone is crossing the line into copying almost right. But it’s not that we do it intentionally, or that someone is doing it intentionally. It just because we are so connected online and to the whole online world, and what is happening that we forget to connect or like reconnect with ourselves. So I like to think about branding as an extension of you, right. So this is what we do with our clients. So we don’t just build brands, because they want to look polished up. But you know, at the end of the day, they’re completely someone else. And we’ve had so many clients that came to us that they built a brand, basically, but they were not able to show up. So they didn’t want to share anything on their stories, they didn’t want to share anything from their life. Because it was completely different to you know, the person that they have built online, on social media, their brands, and this can look like. So let’s say I’ve had a one client, and she was all about these pink pipes. And you know, just like a really bubbly person, but an online, she really try to step up, let’s say step up. And she really wanted this corporate style brand without being corporate. I mean, everyone says, I want I want this corporate style brand without, you know, the corporate vibe. And I’m like, Alright, this is cool. But

let’s be honest, it’s corporate or not. Right? Yeah. Then it became really difficult for her to show up on Instagram stories, because the environment really influences you, right? So it’s almost you feel, it’s like you feel ashamed or embarrassed to show up. Because it’s not, there is no connection, right. And people can feel it. And people can also see it. And I know a lot of people, a lot of coaches, they say that it doesn’t matter. You know, you can do whatever you want, you can be whoever you want, your brand can be this, it doesn’t matter, just show up, just show up unprepared. But how many of us actually are able to do this? Where is the confidence then, right? Because I know that if you are confident, you will be able to sell your packages, your programs, your courses, whatever it is, however, if you are not confident, and you don’t really feel supported by your brand, that this is, you know, the best representation of yourself, and no matter who would find you today, it’s all good, you’re good to go, right. And it happens all the time. And people keep putting it off until it’s I don’t want to say too late because it’s never too late. However, if you sort of keep putting off, investing in your brand, and specifically, your brand experience, in general, it tends to blow up at the end of the day, right? Because what happens is that you keep putting it off, but then there is an opportunity that might come in, right, and then you start panicking, and you start looking for 20 designers, the last minute and you’re like, oh my gosh, what the hell am I doing here? And then, you know, all of these horror websites, stories, sales page stories, and I don’t know what other branding stories that people have, they usually tend to happen when you’ve made that decision from like an emotional place because you were really not in the best place to make that decision for your brand and for your business. Right. Because like let’s not forget, it is you and most most businesses, nowadays, our personal brands, so it’s you basically that people think about even if it’s an agency, right? Even for us exotic studio, they think about me, they think about me traveling, living in Bali and just having good times, right? That’s what I think about. So you always need to think about okay, this is the personal part, but then how can we also think about the business? So not to mix these two things together too much. That’s what we are always looking for because when it starts to get too personal No, thank you So this is a really tricky when it starts to get personal for you as a client, you can really make a decision, because it’s difficult for you to actually be in that space and see the bigger vision. See the vision that fits your business, your lifestyle even right. And it makes sense and it will bring you results. That’s important.

Alex Beadon 10:27
Okay, so let’s go even more elementary. How would you define a brand? Like when when we’re talking about your brand? What are the different elements that we’re talking about?

Diana Jakubcova 10:41
I like to think about a brand as an experience. Because ultimately, again, that’s what we do, we turn brands into premium experiences. And a brand is something that people can deeply experience, right? You land on someone’s profile, you either feel it or not. It’s that simple. It’s that simple. You don’t really have to overthink this, you don’t need to look up your logos, or, you know, your brand strategy, visuals. You have to think about this as an ecosystem of different brand touchpoints working seamlessly together.

Alex Beadon 11:31
I’m writing that down. I think that’s beautiful, different brand touchpoints working seamlessly together. So if someone is listening to this, and they’re like, Okay, I know that my brand isn’t where I want it to be. I know that when I show up in all of those different touchpoints, whether it’s, you know, maybe in my online course, or maybe on my Instagram page through my emails, like there’s so many different touchpoints How does someone go about the journey of learning how to accurately express themselves and their brand online?

Diana Jakubcova 12:06
Through putting yourself out there through situations that sometimes feel good at the beginning, but then you go through this whole learning experience, and you realize that this is not what you want. So again, don’t be afraid, don’t feel locked in by your brands. It’s not the end of the world, right? A lot of the people think that, oh, I now have this color palette, and she told me that I have to show up like this, you still can experiment there is more than at least should be enough space for you to be in your flow. That’s how I would put it right. A brand should allow you to be flexible and dynamic. It shouldn’t feel like it’s a box, and you’re trapped in a box.

Alex Beadon 13:01
I think a lot of people feel that way. Yeah, they think about Yeah, they’re like brand colors, brand fonts, etc. And they’re like, Well, I have to stick to this, this is what I have to use. So something that I love to do is I will look at my Instagram page, and just pretend like I’m a random person. And I will scroll through it and really try to hone in intuitively on like, what are the feelings that are coming up? For me? I love what you said about branding being an experience, I totally agree with you. It’s about how is someone feeling? You know, what are the memories that we’re creating for people through our brand? What is the experience there? And so I think, for anyone who’s listening, you know, going through their Instagram page and putting themselves in the shoes of the ideal client and asking, you know, what could be communicated better. And actually, I’ll give you a great example for me personally, that I just went through, I’ve been leaning more into reels, which is great, and kind of my aesthetic was to just kind of take a screenshot from the reel, and then just throw some pink text on top. And at first, I was like, Okay, I think this looks good. But the more that I did it, my feed just started to feel overwhelming. It was just like so much text in so many different images, and it just didn’t have that cohesive feel that I wanted it to have. So I’m now experimenting with something completely different that I’ve never tried before. And it kind of holds hands with what you were saying around. Don’t be afraid to experiment and try new things and, you know, move outside of your colors a little bit. Try different fonts if it’s not feeling right for you. How often do you look at your own brands and make changes for your own brand? Or do you feel like right now you’re in a really strong position with it and you’re just kind of like sticking to the box that you’ve created?

Diana Jakubcova 14:43
This will be an interesting answer. As a designer, this is very tricky. We tend to change a lot depending on trends depending on what we just find online I guess, but I Do you have to say I feel really strongly about the direction we are currently having with the Pilates studio, I’m not changing colors, I’m not changing the messaging, I’m not changing any of those things. But I might change my phones once in a while, because let’s be honest, as a designer, half of my day, sometimes it just spending and looking for fonts, and I just can’t help it. However, this is, I don’t want to say mistake, because I don’t like using a word mistake. But let’s say mistake I see is that a lot of online entrepreneurs that are not designers are trying to be designers. And that is not going to work out for you. Because you’re not a designer. It’s that simple. So yes, if you want to get inspired by something we create, that’s fine. Just knowing that if you are not that type of creative, if you don’t have that skill developed, it is not going to translate the same way. If let’s say I were to do it, or some other designers, some other creative. That is a huge point here because I see this time and time again. And then you beat yourself up for something. That’s not even your job. Yes, like me beating myself up for not learning how to run Facebook ads properly, and then be like, Oh, I’m really bad at this. I really suck at this. Right? No?

Alex Beadon 16:35
How can someone because most of the people listening are either solopreneurs, or they have a very small team, maybe like a virtual assistant or something like that? How can someone go about expressing themselves in the online space? Like what do you recommend for people in terms of building that brand online? And you know, making sure that they’re also expressing it well online without necessarily having to go to a designer all the time? Like, is it work with someone who’s really good, who can give you all of the tools that you can then like run creatively with it throughout the year? Or, you know, are there any I don’t know websites or resources or anything that you would recommend for someone who’s struggling with this.

Diana Jakubcova 17:16
So if you are currently in like this kind of position, where you’re just like, don’t know what to do with your brand. And even though you understand what that is, why it might feel difficult for you, it’s because you are doing it for yourself, I’ll be honest, it’s really difficult to do your own branding and look at your own business in general, from, you know, like a perspective of what is really happening here, but like really happening here, what do I really want, we do get attached into outcomes, and the things we see. So what I would recommend is that if you have a team member, maybe you can hop on a call and refine together. And it’s not even because they need to be experts in this, it can simply be a conversation around where do you want to see your brands, and not even five years, you can go in a year, right? Let’s make this really easy, because like people tend to jumpscare when you say like five years, or 10 years to let’s say in a year, what would you like to achieve in your business. And that which you want to achieve in your business, you now need to connect with your brand. So then let’s say if you have a goal of launching a new signature program, next year, in the next 12 months, there are things that you will have to consider. Right. So from there, you can sort of backtrack Oh, okay, so what have I done to get here where this is a signature program? It makes sense for me, it makes sense for my audience. What are those touch points, I need to you know, either invest in or start at least developing. Again, you don’t have to do it all at once. But what really helps is getting that new perspective of someone else is looking through your stuff and seeing it for what it is basically. Right? So that’s number one. However, if you are if you are alone, if you’re just like, Okay, I’m really overwhelmed. If this is just about your visuals, start with a Pinterest board, literally this easy. Sit down, create a new Pinterest board and pin things that you feel drawn to. Now don’t pin things that you See, because they are popular. No, no, no bean things that you can see around your house, things that you have in your closet. Things, I don’t know that you just bought your favorite mug, your favorite dress sofa. And you can even look at this through a lens of your future self, your highest self, let’s say, Where would she be living, what kind of apartment, this usually helps even our clients to like disconnect from where they currently are, and where they want to get. And just filter the noise of the industry in general, just make sure you create that Pinterest board. And when you look at it, there will be a pattern of something. So you will start seeing colors, you will start seeing some kind of style forming here. And again, this is exactly what we do with our clients. When we start developing their brand. We tell them to create Pinterest boards of the favorite things. Now one thing to note, don’t pin graphic design things into this board, because this will mesh mesh mesh with all of the other things that you’re trying to do if you want to create a design or like a graphic design related board. Separate is a separate board a separate style. So this

Alex Beadon 21:26
board that you’re talking about is more about the feeling that you want your brand to have. How like how you want people to associate with you when they interact with you at some point.

Diana Jakubcova 21:37
Yes, yes, exactly. Exactly. That’s why it needs to have your favorite things, your favorite style, your favorite sofa, you don’t have to you don’t need to have it in your living room right now. That’s not the point. It’s just how do you you perceive yourself? What kind of things you would buy basically, right? And that will tell you a lot, a lot about yourself.

Alex Beadon 22:00
Okay, so a few things I just want to highlight there. The first thing that you said that I thought was really interesting is don’t pin graphic design elements. This is not about the graphics, this is more about the feeling. So I love that. The second one is that you highlighted that you don’t you shouldn’t be posting or pinning things that are popular. And that’s just a great place for me to remind everyone listening that your brand should stand out. That is what is going to differentiate you you don’t want to blend in in the online space, you need to be standing out. And the best way to stand out is by knowing who you are knowing what makes you different, and really kind of accentuating those things. I love that you also brought up connecting with that next level version of yourself. I think that’s the best advice because that’s how we’re going to be able to like manifest and move into that next level version. I’d love for you to make this a little bit more clear for the listeners with some examples by using your brand as as your own example. So can you give us some examples of like, things that you would have posted on your own Pinterest board and how that kind of was brought to life within your brand, I’d love for you to just share even just one example would be great.

Diana Jakubcova 23:13
Definitely. So I love fashion. So I was pinning a lot of Vogue style images. Secondly, I love travel. And when I was rebranding, I was in Bali. So that was a huge, a huge part of my life. That’s why there are so many like coconuts and palm trees and beach. And then combined with a more elevated style which I wanted to sort of come through showcasing the community aspect. So that’s why I was also painting different shots of like a team shots or something like this, you can you can put these into a search bar, Team shots, photo shoots, or belly aesthetics, trendy fashion vibes, something like this. And then I started to see that obviously it was difficult for me because it was my own brand, but I got through it. I first of all love pink color. And I always had love pink color. Which means why should I get rid of my pink color, even though I want people to perceive me as I don’t know a high caliber enterpreneur. And all this is like people get really scared when they start hitting six or seven figures and they’re like, Oh, now I need to change my entire style. I used to love pink color but I outgrown my pink color. Even though you still have it everywhere in your house. What you can do just do small touches of the paint. It doesn’t have to be up Primary color can be a secondary color. But this is how you keep that personality in even if you want to elevate because I’m guessing a lot of you that are listening, just want to elevate but elevate without sacrificing your personality.

Alex Beadon 25:18
You said something at the beginning of this episode around, avoiding, you don’t want your brand to become too personal. But we’re also speaking a lot about your brand is a representation of you and you need to live with your brand, you need to feel fully expressed by your brand in order to have fun using it and showing up in the online space. How do you recommend someone goes through the process of figuring out like what is too personal, and how much of my personality should I be putting into this?

Diana Jakubcova 25:46
The when I’m saying to personal, what we do inside of our deeply rooted methods. The first part is branding. And that is divided into inner energetics and outer energetics. So the inner energetics that is about you, and those are the things that I shared with the Pinterest board, we share a couple of journaling prompts with our clients as well, like, as I said, like how your highest self would dress up, what kind of apartment she would live in. What are you good at? What are your natural gifts, what other people say about you your entire life, how your family describes you, those are the things that you want to note, the keywords that you might start searching on Pinterest or any other website or just Google or on Instagram, you want to do your research, right. So this is the inner energetics. That’s your like the core personality. So someone is more funny, someone is a bit more, I don’t know, upbeat, someone doesn’t really like that. Fresh Web of color. But you can tell us about the person, right? So that’s where it stays that is the personal your core personality. And then the outer energetics. This is where we start tapping into your audience. This is where we start looking at your business, your business goals, your brand journey and the things that you want to create with your brand. Now, if you find yourself taking these two personally, in the first phase, what I recommend, again, is looking at those future goals, because it’s probably too personal because you’re looking at now what is happening now in my life. This can be financially this can be in business, maybe business is hard currently, and you’re just like, I don’t know what to do. I don’t like this. I don’t like that. You start overthinking. Right? So you start pinning things that what if I like this? What if I don’t like this? Now come back to your journaling prompts. If you’re someone who is funny the entire life and tie, you know, like your family knows you’re funny, your friends, even your audience. It will show right? So how can you bring the funny aspects into your brand. Without this being too much. This is a second point where this can get too much. So let’s say someone is funny, right? So now you want your logo to be funny. You want your colors to be funny, you want your third icon to be funny, you want your sales page to be funny, everything is just becoming too much. So inside of the journaling prompts, what you can do is what you should have is basically different keywords, as I said, and then spread it out. Like spread it out into different brand touchpoints. Right. So let’s say you can have a more and more funny infused color palette, but your phones can tone this whole thing down basically into being more more relaxed, right? So we want to find that sweet spot the balance, because like yes, let’s say you have pink, our green color yellow color, which we do have actually for one of our clients, what we have done is that we have infused her personality into the color palette, which is like a pitch is really fun. You know, it’s just fun to be around her in general. But then what we have done with the other assets, we really try to minimize that aspect like the funny aspect because that will be too much so we didn’t look for fonts that let’s say were too bulky, or we didn’t look for rhymes that evoke that feeling of not funny but It’s like, was this talent, Boho style but like you’ve been to GE, sometimes you can go to vintage event, right? Because those funds are really like bulky. Now we looked for forms that feel refined, because this way, she can still be in her element, but her brand can support her.

Alex Beadon 30:20
Yeah, it’s interesting that you’re saying this because I feel like a lot of typical design advice is something like, choose three descriptive words that that describe the way that your brand is. And then we’re going to make the colors be those three descriptive words and the fonts and the photos and everything. But, in fact, what I think I’m hearing you say is like, no one understand your personality. But then you don’t have to infuse those things into absolutely everything, you can infuse them into different touchpoints so that it’s more of a bigger picture type of thing.

Diana Jakubcova 30:53
Yeah, exactly. And this way your brand becomes more dynamic. Yeah. Dimensional. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So all of our clients actually are using their brands for three years. And they might come back with little tweaks here and there. What usually changes is the layout that is trendy, or I don’t want to say trendy, because people are like, Oh, trendy, not good. Well, we use sometimes trends to stay relevant to the audience. Okay. So we don’t use trends to be trendy, but we use some kind of trends here and there to stay relevant for where the industry is,

Alex Beadon 31:37
could you do you have an example of a trend that you would use to stay relevant?

Diana Jakubcova 31:42
So let’s say I’ll say these with the phones, right? That’s easy to understand. A couple of years ago, let’s say some sort of font was really popular, in general, like in general in the whole world, not just in online industry. Because remember, this is not just online, industrial, we are still living in in the world, right? There are other things. Let’s say it was a sans serif font, let’s say, right? Three years ago, very popular. You can of course, have different style of that font family, right. But now, things happened. Pandemic happened. Lots of other things happen in the world, people want to see something different people want to feel different. People read differently sometimes online, you know. So what we do we find fonts that are a little bit more relevant to where the industry is heading. Currently, we do small tweaks, we don’t have to go all in and do a huge rebrand, which yes, you can do this.

Alex Beadon 32:55
My next question is like, so what you’re saying is that it’s okay to evolve little parts of your brand, bit by bit so that it’s kind of, you know, a living breathing thing, instead of just being like, Okay, we’re done with this. And we’re going to create this completely new thing.

Diana Jakubcova 33:09
Yeah, exactly. I am saying that. I know, it might come weird, from a brand director from a designer. But yes, sometimes this is what you need as a person as well. Because again, I think this goes back to you feeling trapped by your brand, because you literally feel like and I know why you feel like that. Because there is a lot of content out there, from designers telling you, you need to stick to this. And I have a solution to this. You understand now, personal brands, or like online brands, in general, maybe digital creators, educate educators, this is a completely different brand than let’s say, if you were to create an E commerce brand, this is where people get really confused. And there were no rules created for this because this online industry is new. Right? But we are taking rules from E commerce from product based businesses, which is if you are creating a product, please do a proper branding at the beginning and you need to stick to it. Right and you need to stick to it for obvious reasons. Like you’re not going to be changing your packaging every five months. Why would you do it? However, when we look at the personal brands, you evolve, like as an enterpreneur we are evolving every single freaking day sometimes, right? I’m like, yesterday, I was this person and today I’m like, what, what is happening? Right? So that’s why it is really, really different to brand yourself as a person as opposed to a product product. It’s really when you think about it, it’s a made up thing that at the end of the day you can brand it in a Any way that you want, right? And it needs to be relevant for the audience, where this gets a little mashed up is when someone says that, oh, but what if my brand won’t be relevant for my audience? Right? This is the number one question. Well, how can it not be relevant? If you make sure your brand is you and you have infused your personality, your values? Because that is essentially what people are buying? You. They’re buying you. You’re even lifestyle, right, because they resonate. So I do resonate with certain profiles, because of their overall lifestyle, the overall brand experience, like in general, who the person is the values hitting the day, with the product, it’s different product, it’s there, right? The audience, yes, if you are launching, let’s say, a matcha product, it will usually be something with the green color, because it needs to stay relevant. But for you, if you want to use green color, and you are afraid that your audience won’t resonate, it’s not it’s not relevant to look at this issue with the personal brands. Because then what happens is that you get scared, and you’re like, Oh, I’m not gonna use the base. The style in general, it doesn’t have to be a color can be style in general, I’ll be this person, because this is what I can see people resonate with, or I think they resonate with maybe, and do this. Well, no, that’s not you. Doesn’t make any

Alex Beadon 36:49
sense. So it’s so funny that you said that, because my next question was going to be what is one of the biggest mistakes that you see business owners making when it comes to branding their business, but I think you just nailed it. Like, when someone feels like, oh, the reflection of who I am, and my personality is not good enough. I don’t see anyone else showing up in this way. And therefore, it’s not safe for me to show up in this way. So I’m just going to piggyback off of what I’m seeing is working, which is the worst thing that you can do for your business, because you’re just going to blend in with the rest of the sheep.

Diana Jakubcova 37:19
Yeah, exactly. And it’s not gonna resonate for you. And then five months, and you’re like, well, let’s burn my whole business down, because this is not who I am.

Alex Beadon 37:32
Right? Yeah, it’s not going to work. Are there any other mistakes that you’d like to share with us that you see business owners making within their brand, in the online business space, personal branding space.

Diana Jakubcova 37:46
Listening to too much advice online, taking advice from people that that are not experts in what they are basically sharing. So this is, this is my thing. And I still don’t understand why coaches, let’s say business coaches, sell how to create your brand, online, it doesn’t really resonate with me, because there are just so many things that go into branding that not adjust those things that they learned, let’s say, right. And a lot of the times coaches don’t, in that, not all of them. Again, disclaimer, I’m not hurting anyone. However, it’s apparent online, right? They don’t really invest, let’s say in a proper brand strategy, they don’t really have that foundational branding done even to understand branding in the first place. And then selling it doesn’t really resonated with me, because me as someone who, you know, helped so many women build their brands that resonate with them, brands that they feel connected to, I know that there is a lot, a lot, a lot a lot, not just from a design point, which is a huge actually point because if you’re selling a brand, the visual part is a huge part. Right? Let’s not forget about that. And then secondly, there we have the brand strategy plus, for for me personally, we use our own method that I have developed, because it helps you to actually build a brand that will support you that will land you those opportunities that you want to land that again resonates with you and your audience and because of that, you are able to foster brand loyalty. That’s why your customers your clients will stay with you. That is the whole point here. Your brand should To help you retain your clients, because their goal is client experience. So again, there are just so many little things that go into branding. That, you know, when someone did not really put an effort into understanding the whole subject as a general, this is where it gets tricky. And I know a lot of online coaches, they are really good at marketing, let’s say, right? But then they start blending in things about branding. And I’m like, wait, this doesn’t make any sense. Because if someone asked what is first branding or marketing, well, actually, it’s both branding and marketing. Because how can you market yourself online without a proper brand presence?

Alex Beadon 40:54
For sure, in fact, it’s like the first thing, probably, you know, because like, you need to have whether you have a good brand or a bad brand, you have a brand that you have to be showing up in marketing with, whether you’re aware of it or not. The important part is like taking accountability and going through your touchpoints. And really making sure that they are a good reflection of your brand, which is something that’s so easy to stop doing, you know, it’s kind of and I myself have definitely become with like building a team, and, and so on. Like, it’s become easier for me to stop double checking all of these things and making sure that it’s still a good reflection of me, how often are you reviewing your brand and you know, spending time on your Instagram account as a new person and going to your website? How often are you revising those things?

Diana Jakubcova 41:42
So for me personally, if we are taking my example, as a designer, I do it very often. Yeah. Because I can see, let’s see, if I work with the clients, I can really see what I personally want to change or like tweak when it comes to the whole brand experience, just to be a bit more bespoke. But I will do it every quarter.

Alex Beadon 42:09
Okay, so you’re recommending every quarter to do a review. And like make any changes that you need to make? It depends.

Diana Jakubcova 42:15
It also depends on let’s say, you don’t have to revamp your website every quarter, obviously, however, because usually you do have those quarterly goals. Just make sure that whatever those goals are, your brand is cohesive with your goals, basically, right. So let’s say q1, I have a goal to launch. I don’t know a new webinar, because by the end of q2, I want to launch the signature program, which means you will need to make tweaks to your Instagram bio page or your website, you know, you will need to change those pages, you will need to tweak the copy and make sure that people are being properly funneled into your webinar and not 25 Other things that you have there, right. So just make sure that you follow one goal and align this with your brand.

Alex Beadon 43:08
So this brings me on to my next question, which I’m really excited to speak to you about. You sell digital products. So you’re not someone who just has an agency who sells services, you also sell digital products, the ones that I was checking out our Instagram templates for Canva. Right? Yeah. Yeah. That’s so cool. So I’d love for you to talk to us a little bit about what your offerings look like, what are the different offerings that you have?

Diana Jakubcova 43:35
So this happened kind of like out of nowhere. I mean, every designer wants to sell just the products, I guess. But I first started with a notion template, which was like a notion sales page template and course portal. And this product is actually one of the most popular ones. Until this day. Yeah. You know, when it comes to digital products, I feel like it’s easy for me to develop them because I use so many systems and I use, I already use so many. So many platforms I would even say that I have access to so i can create those templates. We have kartra templates, show templates. I wanted to make sure that my audience when they come to our website, it’s not just a showy template, or just a Kajabi template. I want to serve different audiences because I do understand that not everyone is a fan of kartra or not everyone can afford to put their course in kartra. Maybe you just need to start with a notion. So I really love to explore different possible, like roadmaps of how you can navigate your clients or potential clients, your leads, whatever you want to call them throughout your brand. And finally, there are just so many things that you can do behind the scenes that will make your audience feel more seen, right. So that’s why I develop different kinds of templates, different kinds of digital products. And the latest one is the social media template pack, which I have worked on for at least like a year, because I have been seeing a long time on the idea. And again, I wanted, I wanted this to be different. Now, you know, when we say different, it’s really difficult to be different this in this role. There are just so many things, so many other templates. But I wanted this to be like an entire different experience. Again, I, you know, I just like experiences in general. So I’m making everything and experience if you purchase, this is your best experience, even the Canva templates. Yes, I guarantee. So this is the latest one. And when I design any template, I infuse it with our deeply rooted methods, which has the branding aspect, it has the client experience aspect, and the marketing aspect. So this is how you as a consumer, as someone who purchases the product, you can feel confident knowing that there isn’t anything else that you need. Just a copy, let’s say, right, there isn’t anything else you need to worry about if these sections are the sections you should be having. If this type of content is the type of content, you should be like posting, now, I have done the work for you. And you can just do your job, you can promote, you can sell because I want this to be easy for our buyers to use the template on a daily basis. A lot of the times you purchase a template, and then you’re like, I don’t even remember, you know, a year has passed and you’re like, huh, I don’t know, I don’t remember this

Alex Beadon 47:04
is very true. It’s very true. I bought templates before on creative markets. And that is pretty much what happens every time. I’m like, Oh, I’m so excited about it for like a few days, and then it’s gone. And I forgot about it. And yeah. That’s why not with yours. Yeah,

Diana Jakubcova 47:22
yeah. That is why also put the price tag on my templates, actually. Yeah, because I didn’t want this to be just another template, I want you to use this. And I have put a lot of work into creating that content for you already. So you don’t have to.

Alex Beadon 47:39
Yeah, and I want everyone who’s listening to really pay attention to what Diana just said, because when you have an offer, and you want people to cherish it, the price tag has to reflect that, if your presets or templates or whatever are the exact same price as all of the other ones out there. And people are just going through them really, really quickly and easily. You know, that’s not what you want. You want your stuff to be cherished and used. And a price points a great way to force someone to really not just let it gather dust on the digital shelf. I’d love for you to share with us what has worked best for you from a sales and marketing perspective to get those digital products sold. How are you selling them? Where are you selling them? And what advice do you have for someone who’s also selling similar digital products.

Diana Jakubcova 48:30
I always start with a waitlist. So I allow a long period for people to sign up for a waitlist for these social media templates. It was maybe even like five months, I guess that I started to like mention, right, you can start like slowly right. And then as you get closer to the deadline to launch day you can you can share more about the templates or a digital product that you’re creating. But waitlist is a great way because then you can really control what is happening behind the scenes. If you’re just promoting on Instagram, you can really control your Instagram. So one day 50 People will see your stories. And then the next day there are 10 people. And then the third day there are 200 people, right? So that’s why I love to do the waitlist strategy that has worked really well. And then I love to use an affiliate program. So again, they get 20% If they promote it, they use their link. So this this is the to two ways. Two ways. I prefer to sell digital products. I would love to run ads in the future. But I haven’t got there yet, which, you know, I feel like a lot of the times can be a budget thing. Because what you also want to do is to get that feedback first for you templates, you don’t just want to be, you know, like, Oh, this is a template, it’s going to be selling hotcakes. And then you pour 10,000 into your ads and like, Oh, what is happening? Is this a good product actually? So first test your products and see gather the feedback, and then see what kind of strategy works for you. But the weightless emails? I don’t think you can go wrong with that.

Alex Beadon 50:21
Yeah. And then when it actually comes to the day of the launch, getting closer, how do you go about building the excitement for the launch itself? Do you have a certain number of days that the cart is open? Or is it just like, Okay, now the curtains open forever? Is there any sense of urgency like, what are you doing to build sales as soon as you open the doors.

Diana Jakubcova 50:43
So with these templates, specifically, the social media template pack, what I’ve done is that I have created a free version that they could download first. And that’s something I have been promoting for two months, I think. And in that period, so it’s like a taste, you want to give them a taste of something, right? Can be something small, it was the one template for your feet and one template for your Instagram stories. But this way, again, they can see what it will look like if they actually purchase in the future, right. So just make sure that whatever you are giving them for free, it is good. And it is a pure reflection of what they will be receiving. And after that, because I was developing the templates I was sharing every single day on stories, what I’m working on, basically, when it comes to these templates, why I’m creating these templates, and what is different about the templates, because let’s not forget, yes, you can buy a template for $25 out there. So I really needed to make sure people understand what they will be getting if they purchase the template, right. So as we were approaching the deadline, the launch date. Now I’m trying to remember I actually did a giveaway as well. So interesting. Yeah, so I did a giveaway. So if you used the, the template, the free template, make sure to tag me. So again, I’m just doing a brand awareness. I tap into other audiences. So if there is a way for you to collaborate with someone to go live with someone to ask your clients to ask your network in general, that is the best way to build up that hype around a product. Because then what you don’t want to happen is that when you launch, and you hear crickets, and this usually happens, because you didn’t prep your audience enough for them to buy.

Alex Beadon 52:56
Yeah, right. Even when you said you know, you’ve you had a waitlist for five months. I’m over here as a launch strategist just clapping in the background, because people think it just matters what happens when I open the cart. But it’s like, no, it matters. Oh, even more what happens before you open the cart? So I’m really happy that you’re touching on this.

Diana Jakubcova 53:13
Yeah. And it’s a great way to build up the pie because I was receiving so many DMS, when are you launching this, I need this right now. And this is something you can then use to share on your stories to showcase that people, other people are interested, right, because people sometimes they just wait around to see if some someone else is interested. Because you don’t really want to be we as people in general, we don’t really want to be that first person to dip the toe. And you know, this was all packed up, right? So we tend to wait and see if other people are also interested in whatever someone else is, you know, selling. So I was really sharing those testimonials. Plus, I was really asking in the DMS whoever tagged me. So I was DMing them and just having that conversation, you know, building up that relationship with the person because then let’s say you are launching a digital product, you can DM them back and say, Hey, have you seen this, I launched it. I know you really enjoy it by free template. And this is you know, this, this is the date, this is the date, mark your calendars. It’s coming out.

Alex Beadon 54:23
Interesting. So you’re also not afraid to like reach out to people and DM them and basically just promote your own thing, which I think so many people are afraid to do. It seems to me what’s so interesting about you is like you have all of these different offers you have a wide variety of types of offerings. I’m curious to know, what is the percentage of your revenue that is coming from something that you are currently promoting, whether it’s that you’re launching it, or maybe you mentioned it on your stories like I’ve seen you online and you seem to be someone who’s not afraid to talk about what it is that you’re currently offering and what it is that you’re focusing on. What percent of your revenue is coming from all of that versus coming from just passive evergreen income that you don’t even have to think about? It’s just coming in from, you know, maybe someone going to your website randomly, etc.

Diana Jakubcova 55:14
So currently, obviously, the services done for you, I would say around 70 to 80%. And the rest would be sales coming through those templates, whether this is through affiliates through referrals. Again, but just you

Alex Beadon 55:33
find, do you find that most of your sales are coming when you’re saying, Hey, I have this thing coming by it?

Diana Jakubcova 55:41
Yes, of course, you have to talk about your offers, otherwise, people won’t know it exists, it can still come through once in a while, which is amazing. Because I have built that, you know, trust with the audience. And like, in general, however, if you don’t talk about your offers, even if it’s multiple offers, I feel like people still assume that other people are stupid, and they don’t, you know, they’re afraid to share multiple offers in a row. Now, make it very clear, this is this kind of offer, this is for this person. And if you’re this kind of person, you can go here, you lead them, you navigate your audience, but please share your offers. I mean,

Alex Beadon 56:21
you also seem to be like very open to the fact that you are a creative and you’re creating different things. And you’re not afraid of having too many offers, which again, even for myself, like oftentimes, I’ll be like, Oh, I could create this. I’m like, no, like, it just what I’m doing already. I think I’m someone who like I need to focus. But for you, you seem to be kind of thriving in this, like, I created this thing. Here it is I created this thing. Here it is. Does that? Is that something that you’re doing intentionally? Are you just following your intuition? Like, what are your thoughts on having multiple offers?

Diana Jakubcova 56:54
Here, I would lean into who you are as a person? Yeah. Make sure because what can happen is that if you’re another type of person who can handle multiple offers things thoughts,

Alex Beadon 57:11
like customer service, and then making sure that everything’s updated. Yeah, it’s a lot. Yeah.

Diana Jakubcova 57:15
Yeah, exactly. So I love multiple things at once I am Gemini, and you know, one thing one morning, I can be happy. And then in the next next day, I’m a completely different person. It’s like this personality thing. I would say I can flow in between. I can flow in between situations that maybe someone would deem as hard or tricky, challenging. I don’t mind that, of course, yes. I’m not saying that I am immune to bullshit. However, I know that my personality is like flowing, right? So I can go with it, I can create one thing. And then the other thing, I can still, I can still thrive in chaos, if that makes sense. But not everyone can. So if you are not this type of person, you cannot like commit to different projects down the line. It doesn’t even have to be at the same time. Because, as you said, I have multiple projects, multiple services, but they were created one by one. I wasn’t creating these projects, you know, in the same month, basically right? That is, yes, that’s not that’s really overwhelming, even for me. But if you are someone who really thrives on getting your ideas out there, you want to share multiple or like different perspectives of your could be products can be courses can be master classes, right? So a lot of I can see a lot of coaches actually thrive on having a lot of masterclasses because they can dive into different topics that they really enjoy. Right? So that’s an amazing way, right? But again, you have to promote that you have to market your products, otherwise, nobody knows. And that is where everyone forgets that sales do not just happen.

Alex Beadon 59:17
Yeah. And that’s why I wanted to ask you that question. Because I think people have the incorrect vision that they’re just going to create something and people are gonna be buying it all the time, but you have to talk about it. And you’re so good at that. I see you promoting yourself all the time.

Diana Jakubcova 59:32
Oh, thank you, to me, because like, I’m like, I’m not promoting enough. I feel like I’m not promoting it. But then everyone, but I get these DMS like, you’re so good at promoting multiple things. And I’m like, Whoa, am I voting? I feel like I don’t see selling as like when you think of like a hard sell. You know, I view it as an invitation, right? So I try to look for ways that I can sell these to you without me being like, Oh, I just launched my social media templates and you come here and buy them. Now, throughout the day, there might be a situation that you’re working on and you’re like, oh, this could be nice to showcase my templates. And I can just showcase the behind the scenes, how your connects. And there you go. You don’t even need to be, you know, creating your graphics, like professional graphics all the time, right? Just hop on your stories share the behind the scenes share what they will receive, once they I don’t all get the login and get the template, how it looks like and share the link. Like, is it such a nice invitation into your offers? And it’s easy?

Alex Beadon 1:00:45
Yes. 100%. I agree. I wanted to ask you about photography, because I feel like that’s another thing that I’m loving about your brand is you seem to be someone who really invests in good photography, you know, your images are also different, funky, unique, and a good representation of your brand. Talk to us about the importance of photography, when it comes to communicating your brand online.

Diana Jakubcova 1:01:10
Oh, wow, we might need another hour. I love this, I love this topic, because your photos can make or break your brand. You or I even can create the most beautiful branding, elevated, like just dreamy. But once you drag in photos that do not connect with what we have created, it all falls apart. Now, what do we do for clients, we develop like a photo shoot guide. So that’s their creative direction based on what we are creating with their branding. And this way, because even if you hire a photograph, now this is a thing your photographer is not there to tell you what kind of photoshoot you need, they come in, they might have a checklist for you of like different shots that you want to take. You know, that’s all cute. But then the editing all comes in a warm tone colors, whereas our branding was created with the colors that match colder tones, let’s say right, and that is where it all falls apart. And the message is not getting through. And people can feel it. Even though we like to think that I don’t understand branding. I don’t understand fonts. You do. subconsciously you do because we have been exposed to fonts to different directions our entire life that you can tell when something is like hmm, I don’t know what is off, but I know something is off.

Alex Beadon 1:02:52
Yeah. Okay, so for anyone who is listening, I was in the background just clapping away, because this is something that a lot of us don’t know. And it’s okay. Because you know, it’s a journey of being an online business owner, and you learn these things as you go. But that is definitely something I’ve learned is like, you can hire the best photographer. But if you don’t have that creative direction of exactly what it is that you’re trying to create, and the emotions that you’re trying to evoke, and what clothes are you wearing? What does your hair look like? And what does your make? Does it all align? It matters so, so so much. And, you know, when we’re in an online space, yes, we’re showing up on stories and we’re making videos and all those things. But the photography really makes such a difference. It’s it’s huge. Do you also use stock photo websites? Or are you really making sure that every single photo is something that you have created with your vision?

Diana Jakubcova 1:03:51
I make sure for the for the past two years, I make sure all clients have and you brand pictures when they work with us. And the past year, we have been implementing the photoshoot guides, which has been a game changer like a game changer. Because, again, as I said, your photographer is like she’s just or he’s just showing up right? Correct. Yeah, gave them some kind of direction. Oh, I need you brand photos. And I guess I’ll just wear the blazer right. The white blazer Yeah. I love it. Not not calling out anyone, right? Remember that? Don’t want to bleed again. This is what happens, right? Because you don’t really know what to do like you have no idea and as you said like people actually are not aware that their photoshoot connects with their brands, right? So this is where we get a photograph for so inside of the guide that is a brief for a photographer in what we are trying to achieve with this photo shoot. So let’s say for one client it can be we’re trying to We were trying to capture a community aspect for this new, I don’t know, business launch right for a client. But for other clients, it can be a really huge rebrand. So we need to make sure that we evoke these, like the wow effect, you know, some clients when the wow effect and their brand is like really about pops of colors and outfits are different. So we include outfits, I outfit ideas as well. We also include different shots. And then I also include different, like ideas on what I think would help me as a designer, to design their website and to design their marketing materials. So again, a lot of times we receive images that I can’t use, and I’ve seen so many times, one of our previous clients, she has given me access to like 800 images. And I could only use like 40. Now, what this shows is that you have wasted your time your money, because I can’t really use all these images, because either I don’t know the position of the light lighting is not the best for this brand. Or you are standing kind of weirdly, like why do we have these shots here? Right? So with this guy, we always make sure that if you have booked one hour photoshoot, you are in and out, and you know exactly what to do. Everyone is on the same team. And I’ve had clients tell me that previously they were having like four or five hour photoshoots. And I’m like, What are you doing five hours? Like I can’t imagine. But with the guy they guide, they were able to be in and out like one hour, two hours, Max.

Alex Beadon 1:06:48
That’s amazing. That’s very impressive. I’m cheering you on? And how often do you think someone should be doing a photo shoot? Like, how often do you need new photos?

Diana Jakubcova 1:07:00
Depends on your business, I would say for agencies or for someone who is like a done for you. It doesn’t have to be that often. Because there is not much of a change. However, if you are a coach, there are just so many things that you are changing. So many programs that you’re launching, it is advice to have at least two per year, just like a refresh, new location, something more exciting, because a lot of the times exciting things also happen in your business. And they will reflect in your brand photoshoot. Yeah, make sure of that.

Alex Beadon 1:07:38
Yeah. I think this is something that’s it’s just so easy to not do. You know, so even for everyone listening, myself included, I think even just booking it into the calendar and being like, Okay, I have two photoshoots booked for this year, at least. Because even for me thinking back, like when was my last photo shoot, I think it was actually it was this year. So okay, we’re doing okay, but still, you know, just making sure that it’s in the calendar and thinking about it, because I don’t even know what my next photo shoot is. And it you know, unless you’re really taking care of it and thinking about it, it might just slip your mind and then there you go, you’re not you’re not going to be showing up in the best way online. Diana I have to thank you so much for joining us. And before we wrap up, is there anything that you think is very important to share with our audience that I did not ask you that you feel is just too important to forget?

Diana Jakubcova 1:08:31
What is too important to forget is you first need to switch off from online space to actually reconnect to yourself. And that is important when it comes to your brand. Because if you can really see who you are inside your personality, then it’s going to be really hard for you to create the brand that you want to create, to connect with your brand for other people to connect with your brand. And ultimately, if you hire someone, I have questions for you. And you need to answer right this is something that a lot of people forget. If you even hire a designer, a brand professional, we have questions for you. You need to be prepared to tell me what is it that you want? Because this it doesn’t work the way that if you pay someone for branding, we just magically can read your mind. Unfortunately, I am not a mind reader. And I have a lot of questions if you work with me. So it is best if you let’s say decide to work with someone to get the best out of your investment specifically with the creatives. Know what you want come with a plan. You don’t need to have it all figured out. That’s not what I’m saying. But you do need to have Some sort of vision because then all I have to do is align that vision the plan your brand with your whole vision. That’s all I need.

Alex Beadon 1:10:11
Diana, thank you so much. You’re so I think you’re so great. I love like you just have this like spunky energy. And like you tell it, how you’re not afraid to tell it how it is. And like meeting you today, and then putting it side by side with like, what I’m seeing online is so much fun. So thank you so much for being here. I think everyone really enjoyed everything that you’ve shared with us. Can you let everyone know where they can find you online?

Diana Jakubcova 1:10:35
So you can find me on Instagram. Obviously, the best way is deeply rooted. That’s UDL but if you want to check out what we offer some freebies some fun things, check out our website deeply rooted studio.com

Alex Beadon 1:10:51
Thank you, Diana.

Diana Jakubcova 1:10:53
Thank you so much.

Alex Beadon 1:10:58
If you are someone who wants to launch your online course if you are an educator, and you’re ready to take what you’re already doing and scale it to the next level, if you want to bring in more students and make more impact with the work that you do in the world, then the ultimate launch bootcamp is for you. Don’t miss it. Make sure you’re on the waitlist. And I can’t wait to talk to you guys again next time. I’ll see you next week. Bye.

 

#017 – On hitting 8% of my monthly sales goal! (and a super simple tip for reaching larger audiences on Instagram Stories)

What drives us forward? One word: Movement.

That’s been the story of Jen Esquer, a well-studied private sports therapist whose fondness of anatomy moved her to the lane of success.  

Being active since she was a young child, Jen has learned to love the specificity of body movement. From gymnastics to pilates, her extensive history studying anatomy and physiology inspired her to embark upon a meaningful path towards entrepreneurship.

“Get out of your own way, and things start to open up.”

Since discovering her purpose, Jen has made it her life’s mission to heal the world by empowering others to heal themselves. Now she spends her time creating programs, workshops and treatments that help keep the body in peak physical shape.   

“Take care of yourself, sit with your energy—meditate, work out. You have to take care of YOU first in order to be able to translate that out to other people.”

Find out more on what stirs Jen to action; listen to her talk about the biggest mindset changes she’s experienced, how a sound body is a sound base for a strong business and how she consistently lives her best life on purpose.

In this Podcast we talk about:

  • How Jen had such a highly successful launch of her first digital product
  • How to overcome paralyzing fears and take action as an entrepreneur
  • How Jen has grown her instagram account to more than 400K followers

Take a Step in the Right Direction:

IG: @docjenfit
Website: www.docjenfit.com

Events that Moved her:

Ascension Leadership Academy in San Diego
Radical Acceptance

Loved this and want more? Check out our other episodes here.

Spark a conversation! Say hello @alexbeadon on Instagram.

Transcript Available Below

Alex Beadon 0:00
If you want to know how to have a highly successful launch in your business, this is the episode to listen to today’s guest, Jen s. Kerr launched her online course for the first time and made more than 100,000 US dollars. That’s right. In this episode, she shares exactly how she did it, the fear she had to overcome in order to make it happen. And we talked about how she’s managed to grow her Instagram account to more than 400,000 followers. Welcome to on purpose. Do you ever feel like you’re trying to balance it all, nourishing your health while growing your business and living a life well lived. And no matter how hard you try, sometimes you slip from purpose driven into autopilot. Take a deep breath, relax, and let’s get you back to where you belong. On purpose.

Hey, friends,

welcome to episode number 10. Of on purpose with Alex Beadon, I am so pumped that we have finally reached double digits literally, I could not be more excited. But I would be more excited if we were at triple digits. Cannot wait for that day really excited. Anyway, today I’m talking to physical therapist and private sports therapist, Jen s care. What I love most about Jen is that she is someone who shows in a really unique path as a physical therapist, by deciding to put a lot of focus in building her personal brand and her online presence, so much so that she now has a following of more than 400,000 people on Instagram. And the very first launch of her online course at the end of 2017 made over six figures. It was amazing to hear how Jen has accomplished so much so quickly. And I think you’re going to love this episode. If you want to take a quick moment to find her on Instagram. Her username is Doc Jen fit. So D OC Jen fit doc Jen fits, definitely go and check her out. But I think you’re really going to enjoy this. So take a listen. And when you’re done, hit me up on Instagram and let me know what did you think? Enjoy, guys, and thank you so much for being on the podcast with us today. I’m so happy to have you here.

Jen Esquer 2:21
Well, thank you for having me. I’m excited.

Alex Beadon 2:23
The very first question that I have for you is what do you find most nourishing about having your own business?

Jen Esquer 2:32
It’s really down to the core of what I do. It’s exactly, it’s fulfilling my why my purpose in terms of what I’m trying to create. So it’s like, my business just runs off of my connection to being able to relate that to people so that they understand they can grab onto it. And the more that I’m able to connect that to relate that to people to get them to understand and feel my why the more the business grows. And so it’s it’s all about that connection, that getting back to my why. And that’s really what I do, why I do what I do and why I have the business.

Alex Beadon 3:16
Can you tell us more about your relationship to your purpose, first share with us what you would think that your purpose is? And then have you always been connected to your purpose? Like how did that come about? Yeah, so

Jen Esquer 3:32
my, my why my purpose is really being able to get people out of the mindset of you get fixed by someone else. But it’s really you get to fix yourself. And the more that they understand that connection, the more people start to take ownership for their own bodies start to tap into their own bodies, move their own bodies and get out of pain and injury on their own. And so that’s really what I want to bring to the world. That’s my mission. Right? As a physical therapist, I don’t fix you. That’s not it’s not my goal. That’s not my mission, but you’re able to fix yourself. And really, I feel like that’s translated into my own business and being able to become an entrepreneur just by following that path. And following that mission, I knew I loved the body. And so I wanted to get into physical therapy. I taught Pilates. I coached gymnastics, but it was never really getting I wanted more. I was always asking why, well, why is this and why do I modify this and why do they have pain here? Why am I taping an ankle? You know, so it was? It wasn’t for me enough. I was always asking more. And so I went to physical therapy school. That was great. But then I continued to say, well, I know the basics now but how do I really help someone? How do I really get, you know, pain away or put vent injury. And so I started learning more I would, I worked at a place that I made sure I had mentorship and continue taking courses. And as that started to grow, and as I felt like I could start to reach out and help people more and kind of dive into that deeper, I realized that a clinic setting wasn’t where it was supposed to be. And so I went off and I did my own thing. And I started having my own clients and my own outside of the clinic. And that was great. So

Alex Beadon 5:30
been hard for you, though. Because isn’t that like the traditional path? Oh, 100%. Yeah, that must have been really fearful for you.

Jen Esquer 5:39
It was and it was almost like a crazy transition in my head, that perspective that just had like, all of a sudden, one day, I was like, why am I still working here? I’m done. And it was almost like, I just had to take that immediate leap when I felt the energy was there at the right time. And this has always been my thing is like, I haven’t rushed anything, I’ve definitely followed my own path and followed what I felt like was the right timing. Because yeah, I could have started my own thing right out of grad school, I already had a bit of a following. And I could have just used that and try to hustle on my own. But for me, it didn’t feel real, yet it didn’t feel authentic. I didn’t feel ready. And so I followed my path of No, this is where I need to be. I’m still learning, I’m still learning. And I think that’s okay. Because you’ll get to the point where you’re like, I can continue learning now. And I feel like I can go off and I can help people in a different way. And so once I made that transition, it was amazing. And then it came into well, I want to be able to help people more, how can I reach a broader audience without having to see them in person and without having to work on them? One on one. And so it was like, How can I now translate that into an online market? Yeah,

Alex Beadon 7:02
that’s really cool. So were you always leaning in the entrepreneurial direction? Like, did you always know that was the direction but you were kind of just waiting for the right time?

Jen Esquer 7:13
Honestly, no. Oh,

Alex Beadon 7:17
where did this? Like? Where did it come from? Where did this idea come from? That you were like, oh, I should maybe do my own thing and do it online. Like both of those things. I feel like number one doing your own thing. And then number two, bringing it online. There’s not that many people will at least not that I know of who are doing what you’re doing online.

Jen Esquer 7:36
Right? There’s not a lot, for sure. I mean, and they don’t teach you any it mean you barely learn business stuff when you’re going through and becoming a clinician, let alone anything online. But it really was. So in my last year of PT school, my boyfriend was getting worked on by someone at his home. And she was a chiropractor, but she had her own table shattered on tools. And I remember watching her work on him. And I was like, she’s doing my job. She’s like a physical therapist. She’s doing soft tissue, she’s doing exercises with him. And I was like, What the heck. And so that’s when I first started to ask questions. And I asked her, I was like, how are you doing this? You don’t have to go through a clinic. You don’t need insurance. Like what? I had no idea, I literally had no idea what this was. And so she was the first person that kind of sparked my interest in like, oh, I can set my own schedule, I can take on my own clients, I can work the way I want to work, especially now because as a physical therapist, we had direct access, meaning that we didn’t have to have a doctor’s referral to see clients where in the past you always did as a physical therapist, and chiropractors never had to, which is why, you know, they’ve been able to thrive in business a lot, I think a lot further along than physical therapists have. So that’s what first sparked my interest. And so even when I was working at the clinic, I started taking clients on my own on the side and kind of going to a CrossFit and and seeing how that felt. Right. And so that’s what first started to kind of pique my interest and then having the relationship I had I was surrounded by people that were in the online market and, and doing businesses online. So that did pique my interest in terms of like, well, can I take my social media presence and turn this into something that I could reach more people?

Alex Beadon 9:29
Yeah, okay, cool. So there’s so many directions I want to go down. Okay, first, before we go down the social media direction, I want to talk about kind of your journey as an entrepreneur because I know okay, you made the decision, you decided to go online, great, fine, whatever, but like was that the initial thing was like, Okay, I’m gonna step out on my own and do this online thing, or did you kind of step out on your own? Have your own private clients and then dive into the art because you have the mobility method, which I know is your online Horse. And I feel like I really wasn’t paying much attention. But I feel like very quickly after I saw on Instagram that you’d gone out on your own, you launched the mobility method, is that correct?

Jen Esquer 10:12
Yeah, it was about six months, right? I had been working on my own. And then I decided to create an online course. So it was funny. I like, I took the leap of faith had like, zero clients and was like, Well, I’m just gonna see what happens. I literally told my bosses, I was like, I have a week, guys, I can’t give you two weeks because I have a lot to figure out on my own. So and they ended up being OK with that everyone was really nice. So I ended up like fully, picking up a full six day schedule really quickly working like eight hours a day. And and then as I started to, like, kind of dive in and say, Well, can I take this on mine, I had to scale back, I was like, Okay, I can’t work six days a week, there’s no way. So I went down to four. And then I went down to three men two, and now I’m down to one. Because it’s just a lot of energy to try to learn how to, you know, translate what I’m trying to do, and take that online and just learn online entrepreneur, online businesses is a beast, you know, and people think, Oh, you have a social media following that means that you could just come out with a program and kill it, maybe. And that, that used to work really, really well. But if you don’t know how to do online marketing, then you’re not going to be successful and be able to reach people the way you want to. So there was so much that I needed to learn. And I continue to learn. So I just

Alex Beadon 11:43
had the housing.

Jen Esquer 11:46
Exactly. So I had to scale back on my in person clients. And that just kind of came with time again, just like kind of figuring out the path of, of how is this going to work and trial and error and figuring out what my own system gets to be?

Alex Beadon 12:01
And do you think that you would like to be at the point where you are not working with clients at all in it’s all online? Or do you think that it’s super beneficial to at least have ones once a week?

Jen Esquer 12:13
For me right now, I think it is beneficial to have once a week clients only because what I do in person is different still than what I can take online, I haven’t figured out how I can really take the deep neurological stuff and translate that into an online program because it is so complicated, weird and different. So I love being able to still see the difference that I’m able to make in a person that comes to me only a few times, you know, again, I’m not fixing anyone, I’m just facilitating. So being able to do that in person is still such a powerful thing for me. So for right now, it’s once a week unless I’m gone on vacation or something which does happen. So and we’ll see. We’ll see where that evolved into.

Alex Beadon 13:01
I love that. Okay, cool. So I’d love for you to tell us about your business model. The mobility method, how many times have you launched it? How’s it been going?

Jen Esquer 13:12
Yeah. First launch was in November.

Alex Beadon 13:17
So really, that was the first launch first launch. I feel like it was so much longer ago. When I saw the forest launch, I was like, Oh my gosh, this is so cool. Wow. Okay. It was just it was just recently then.

Jen Esquer 13:31
Mm hmm. So it wasn’t even that long ago. And I was it was funny. It was like, I just in September, I think it was when I was like, I’m going to do an online program. Right? I don’t know how I’m going to do it. But I’m going to do it. And I remember sitting in on just a couple of different like meetings and conferences and being like, oh my god, this is so cool. And I’m learning so much stuff. And then the next day I’d be like, I have no idea what they just said cuz I don’t know what any of that mean. And it’s like, again, I had this huge social media following but no email list, right? Let alone do I know what like a squeeze pages are an opt in? Like I didn’t know any of these things, right? Crazy. And so I started pulling in girlfriends that have been doing this for a while and I’d be like, oh, let’s let’s go get coffee or let’s create a mastermind how fun would that be? And like just getting people like together so that I can learn from other people. And that was super helpful. Luckily, I do have amazing friends who are open and abundant and willing to share. I started going to conferences, going to and just reaching out to people that I was probably afraid to reach out to and ask a question, but I just did and I was just like in a phase of like, I’m going to push it I’m gonna do whatever it takes and and they were actually willing to sit down with me and to go over like like what my launch would look like and suggest books I should read and, and things like that. And so saw so beneficial, so helpful. And I decided to launch in November and kind of do, like, get people back into the gratitude of what mobility is. And so I did the challenge leading into it. And it because, you know, it kind of followed gratitude and thanksgiving, that’s what I wanted to like, kind of, you know, stay in the, in the same realm and same mindset of, and it ended up being so powerful, I ended up getting other friends to be able to promote my free challenge, not my program, but my free challenge and get other people to, you know, talk about it and get signups and opt in. So all of a sudden, I built us, I think I had almost 11,000 opt ins in the washer. Oh, that’s

Alex Beadon 15:53
amazing. And you had a competition as well, didn’t you?

Jen Esquer 15:57
So it was the challenge. And I would pick three random winners and I giving away a prize. And then I literally followed like Jeff Walker’s launch sequence in terms of like, how I was talking to people in the mindset. And I also had a boyfriend who was like, Okay, do another live, do another story, do another, like really pushed me. And even though it was scary, like I just did a live like, why are people gonna want to hear. And every time I did, though, people were able to connect with my why they were able to connect with why I was doing this, it’s not to take your money, like, I don’t want your money, I want to help you, I want you to understand why this is important in your own body. And when I was able to connect that to people, sales would go through, I would net more people buying and it was an again, it’s not for the result. But it was just for the connection. And every time I was able to connect back to that, again, it would work, it would work. And it was like, Really, it pushed my boundaries, it pushed me out of my comfort zone to really how much can I get out there because I never talked to my audience like this, I never sold anything. I’ve just been giving value for the last two years, like, here’s all the free stuff, here’s how to help your body. And, and then all of a sudden, now I’m saying here’s how you can put this in one place and have it tangible for you. And so it was just it was amazing. It was powerful it was it went way better than expected. And I just because I I put down, you know, my, my fear of looking weird or being judged or, you know, asking for help, I have more support. And I got it. I had friends who one of my friends, he was the first one who kind of guided me into how I should be posting for, for social media in terms of talking about the body and how I should structure that. And he actually, he’s huge in the rehab world online. And he put my link in his bio stories for me, he talked about how proud he was of me and opposed, it was the cutest thing, but he like so to get other people who are in my same field, doing close to what I’m doing. And getting their support met so much.

Alex Beadon 18:24
That’s amazing. I love so much of what you just said. Okay, so one thing that I love that you said is that you were putting yourself out there way more than you were ever than you ever had before way more than you were comfortable putting yourself out there. What was that time like for you? Because I know, a lot of the doubts and fears that come up are like people are gonna get annoyed. Like, I always tell my clients and like you have to like, literally feel like a broken record. What’s interesting is that, like, I remember I only saw you go live once, right? I only whereas I think the thought that goes through people’s minds is like, oh my gosh, people are gonna get so sick of hearing me. But really, people are probably only going to catch one, maybe two, you know that people don’t see most of what you’re posting. Fortunately, the algorithms change and everything happened. So yeah, you’re right. People are How often were you going live during that time?

Jen Esquer 19:25
During the launch time I was going live probably every day and then on the last like two days of my launch. So following the launch sequence, you know, it’s usually an open closed, closed cart. I didn’t close the cart, but I was I was giving away an early bird pricing and so the price was gonna go up. And so I was doing honestly like three lives a day by the last two days. Wow, that’s all morning, afternoon night. I was like, here’s my morning coffee. How are you guys?

Alex Beadon 19:58
That’s so cool. I like that. Uh, I like that you were just like, I gotta put myself out there and like that it made you uncomfortable. And you did it anyway. And I love what you said about asking for help, even from people who you think would have zero interest in helping you through this, people love being of help an end of service. And I mean, you might say no, and no one’s gonna die.

Jen Esquer 20:20
Yeah, and it’s totally fine. And I did have friends who are like, You know what, I can’t promote that challenge. And I’m like, No, oh, good. Yeah. And I said, if there’s anything, I can help you with it, please let me know. And, you know, it’s no hard feelings it gets. Yeah, like nothing

Alex Beadon 20:35
personal. Yeah, no, not at all. I’m also super interested by the fact that you had this huge Instagram account before you even began your journey as an online entrepreneur. So I’d love to hear what has your experience with Instagram be have been like, how did you get started? How has it evolved? Where are you at with it today? Tell us a little bit about that.

Jen Esquer 20:59
Yeah, so it got started accidentally. I was in I was in grad school at the time, and I was posting my workouts which typically are outside. And I would do like, because I used to run a lot. And I would do that a lot. And that’s relative. I would run for cardio, and then I would do a lot of calisthenic work. So like on the bars and pull ups leg lifts kind of continued with my gymnastics kind of training because I loved the feel of like the body weight and, and just being able to maintain that strength. And so I would post about it. And then I would tag the calisthenic pages, which four years ago, one of them had like 300,000 followers, which four years ago that’s following Yeah, exactly. So he reached out and he was like, Hey, we all get together in Venice. Like you should come meet up with us. And so I was like, okay, cool. And I ended up going down to Venice Beach and training with them. They were so nice. Like, these jacked guys who do these bars are like, greeting me one by one as I’m like, planning. They’re so cute. But they were they were so nice. And he would post anyone who was in the calisthenic community, right? And so naturally, he started posting me and I was like, uh, so I just do handstands now. And so I just kind of it’s shifted into my journey and I he asked me to compete, so I started training to compete and calisthenics. Wow, it was just like a little side hobby from school. It was like I don’t want to study right now. Let me post a video. So it was fun. It was fun to meet a new community of people. I started getting in contact with a lot of the yogi’s because I was upside down and doing handstands. And so I started hosting challenges with Yogi’s and meeting different people in that aspect, getting it’s cool I did to influencer events and just hanging with people who love to move their bodies and all these amazing cool ways. And so I felt like so it was just such a cool feeling to have these cool friends. I’d have like Cirque du Soleil friends and some calisthenics, and Yogi’s and all these different people who were amazing in my eyes. So it was really fun, and it was purely a hobby. And then I graduated, and I was like, Well, I kind of I don’t I don’t know if I care about this anymore. And I was already at 100,000 followers. Wow. But I it was like steady, it didn’t grow any more. And I was just like this is I’m a PT now. Why am I doing this? This is like, this isn’t my job. I shouldn’t be focusing on it. And that’s when my friend Vinnie rehab met up with him in Toronto and he was like, why aren’t you posting like anatomy type stuff? Why aren’t you talking about the body and I was like well I’m a new PT I just graduated I don’t have the knowledge yet and and it was that fear of being judged of not being at that level I should be of like, Oh, what if other PTS who’ve been doing this for years now see my stuff and they’re like what is she doing? You know, so it was it was having that that just the fear of putting myself out there and that in that aspect hiding behind fitness and doing cool things with my body? That was easy. Yeah. I didn’t have to I didn’t even have to show my face a lot because I was afraid of being judged for how I looked I was afraid there was just so much I was afraid of and so I just was resistant to a lot of things until I just decided to listen to him and I did one video and it took off and I was interested in this and so I started doing it more and people liked it more and and then I changed my name to doctrine fit because it be Jen underscore e s underscore care. Oh wow. Nothing to do with anything. My name is And so I changed my name got serious and started like posting regularly about the body and everything and it took I grew over 200,000 Just from posting educational things.

Alex Beadon 25:13
That is amazing. And the

Jen Esquer 25:15
more I did it, the more people loved it. And which was also gratifying because I’m like, Oh, my God, people want to actually learn. Yeah, cool. Yeah. Then I started, like, meeting mentors and meeting other therapists that I admired that I thought I wasn’t good enough yet, or so it was just like, it just goes to show, you know, get out of your own way. And things start to open up.

Alex Beadon 25:40
Yeah. And it’s funny that you touched on that fear part. Because that is, I would say, like one of the top three excuses that I hear all the time of why people don’t want to make content. They’re like, Oh, but what if I say something wrong? Like, I don’t know everything. And it’s like, you don’t need to know everything. You just need to be able to help one person or inspire one person and it’ll be worth it. And you might stumble, or you might fall in like, so. Learn and you’ll move on.

Jen Esquer 26:04
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly.

Alex Beadon 26:06
So how important would you say your Instagram has been for the growth of your business and the success of your business?

Jen Esquer 26:17
For getting started, for sure has been the number one thing that’s helped me,

Alex Beadon 26:22
I guess you said, you didn’t have an email list when you first launched? Was that a six figure launch? I feel like I heard that that was a six figure launch somewhere. It was. Okay. So that was it was clearly a very successful launch, especially for your first launch. So you would say that that really had a lot to do with the fact that you were well connected, people were supporting you, and that you had this awesome Instagram account to utilize 100%? And how because you said at the beginning, it was helpful, maybe not so much anymore. How do you feel about your Instagram account? Now?

Jen Esquer 26:57
I definitely still feel like it helps. I mean, I, I do feel like my growth has kind of slowed down. I mean, things are just hard to figure out. And I don’t I don’t sit there trying to figure it out, right? Because it’s just a waste of time. Like people reach out. They’re like, Oh, algorithms change. I’m like, Dude, it’s changing all the time. Yeah, you know, it’s not something that we can, unless you’re in Facebook, and Instagram and like working it, I don’t think we’ll really have a full grasp on it. So So and it’s like a rabbit hole. It really is. So do the best you can in terms of putting out amazing content and things that you know, are going to be catched not only from your audience, but mainly from other people like scrolling through the popular page, why are they going to want to click on you, I always say Instagram is a billboard. It is your billboard, it is something that needs to look catchy, it needs to look just like everything is going to be viral, which is hard to determine you can’t determine you never know, but do your best.

Alex Beadon 28:03
I want to kind of dissect a little bit into what you just said, before we move on. You said Yeah, want to create content that’s eye catching, not just your ideal client. Mm hmm. So talk to me about that. Because if we’re trying to attract our ideal clients, what I think what you’re trying to say is that basically, the more people you have coming to your Instagram account, the more people are actually going to see your content. Yes, the more chances you’ll actually have of hitting your ideal client.

Jen Esquer 28:27
Yeah, correct. Yeah. And when you when someone first sees you, and then they go, and maybe they’ll want to follow you for a hot second, because they’re like, well, this person may be looked a little interesting, you’re gonna show up in their stories. First, you’re gonna show up in their feed first when they first follow you. So if you have some good content that’s coming up first, or they may be click your store and they start to hear a little bit from you, they like your personality, maybe, maybe there is like a free challenge that you’re running or your course is just landing or you have a webinar that’s coming out or whatever it may be. And they get to hear that first because they’re just like, kind of curious. Like that is it’s always your moment, it’s always your moment to to step up to show who you are, and to be able to convey that to anyone who might come across your page.

Alex Beadon 29:16
That’s interesting. Okay, cool. What did I cut you off? You were gonna say something else, and I cut you off. Do you remember what it was?

Jen Esquer 29:25
I don’t know if I do, but that’s okay.

Alex Beadon 29:28
Any more thoughts on Instagram before we wrap up and move on to the next topic?

Jen Esquer 29:34
I just say, you know, don’t be afraid to reach out and connect. I even I worked at a physical when I first worked at the physical therapy clinic. There was a guy there who he had blocked me when we work together because he was trying to build his own following and I was like, Excuse me, I could have helped you like, we could have collaborated. I had a lot more followers than me Yeah, and don’t be closed off to anyone, whether they’re in your space, whether you’re just unsure, like, be open. And if it doesn’t work for you fine, like you move on, you know, but be open, be collaborative reach out to people, the more that you reach out, the more people are like, Oh, this is actually like a really cool person. They’re really nice. Like, people want to be surrounded by nice, cool people, people who are going to be supportive. So comment, like, go reach out, be open to people who are even in your same space and your same industry, because there’s a lot that you can learn from other people.

Alex Beadon 30:39
I want to talk to you about your routine and your lifestyle. So firstly, I want to know, how do you structure your weeks? I know you said that one day a week you’re working privately with one on one clients, what is the rest of your week look like? Oh, man.

Jen Esquer 30:54
I would say I’m still trying to figure out my structure.

But it really is it’s content creation. So I’m constantly thinking, anytime I have a new idea, I have a notepad that I just go to, and I write it down. And like, if someone asks a question about something, I’m like, Oh, I can create a video on that. I’m gonna write that down. So. So it’s constantly having an open mind to be able to write things down and kind of come up with things as I as I feel like I, I can. And then it’s also answering emails and managing my team and just a lot of content creation. I mean, as someone who writes programs and and has an Instagram, and if you’re in this world, it is going to be a lot of constant. Yeah, whether it’s writing newsletters, blogs, whatever it may be.

Alex Beadon 31:50
What does your content currently look like? Obviously, I know you’re on Instagram, you have an email list. I assume you’re sending out weekly emails. Yeah. What else are you making? Do you have a YouTube channel?

Jen Esquer 32:02
It is in the works. Okay, cool.

Alex Beadon 32:05
Yeah. So right now, is it just mainly you’re focusing on Instagram and email list?

Jen Esquer 32:10
Yes.

Alex Beadon 32:11
Do you have a blog?

Jen Esquer 32:14
Yeah, rough. I have a few blog posts. But it’s all like a main focus. It is. So not a main focus. And even people that I learned from who used to blog all the time there, they’re switching, doing blogging less. Yeah. And figuring out how they can optimize in other areas better. And I’m really learning as well. So it’s like, how can I translate taking, you know, someone from whether it’s an Instagram post or a swipe up in a story and just taking them straight to the the email list rather than even a blog post. So some people take it straight to a blog post that hopefully, hopefully takes them back into the email list. I’m usually just taking them straight, either into the program or into the email list.

Alex Beadon 33:03
I’m curious about your email list when you’re sending out or even Instagram as well, I know that mainly, so you said you have the mobility method, which focuses on being able to move with ease, correct? How far do you kind of shift away from that in your content? Like how, how often are you veering into other topics? Um, or do you mainly try to just talk about that, because you know that that’s what you’re selling?

Jen Esquer 33:36
I would say I probably only do that about specifically talking about mobility or showing like a mobility flow. I specifically do that probably once a week, sometimes even less. But I would say all my content is kind of geared around, like, how can you open up? How can you mobilize? How can you decrease restrictions in an area so so I’m probably talking about it a lot more than I even realized or other people realize, but a lot of it is still geared around. And what is attractive, unfortunately, to most people is like, oh, shoulder pain, my pain is right there. How do I increase that? How do I decrease that? How do I you know, so, unfortunately, I do still have to talk a lot about just pain in one area in order for it to be attractive, which isn’t necessarily what my passion and my goal is, but But hopefully, then, if I’m able to at least attract them that way, then I’m able to translate into that as they start to see my content more and more, it’s like, well, that painful area doesn’t necessarily mean you know, you do these exercises, it might be coming from your big toe, it might be coming from a different area. So then I hopefully drop them into more education as they start to follow me.

Alex Beadon 34:54
I love that you mentioned that because I think so many people are don’t really want to talk about certain things. things that actually are what’s going to bring the, the, the level of understanding that their ideal client has, that’s what’s going to attract them. So I love that you touched on that. What’s been the hardest part so far about being an entrepreneur?

Jen Esquer 35:14
Um, you know, right now, I have to admit that it’s just been really exciting. I don’t put a lot of pressure on myself in terms of like how something’s going to do. I just like, here’s another experiment. For me. It’s like, it’s always experimenting, you never really know what’s going to happen. Yeah. And when you let go of the expectation of like, I need to hit a six figure launch, or I need to do this or you stop comparing yourself to other people as well, and how they’ve done. You’re just able to, like play with it and kind of see like, well, maybe this post will do? Well, let’s just try it out. Let’s experiment. Let’s see what this newsletter does. Like, I even had a newsletter where I forgot to change the subject line. So it said new broadcast, and it actually got more clicks. Oh, my God, what did I do? And then

Alex Beadon 36:08
you’re like, Oh, well, yeah.

Jen Esquer 36:11
So it’s like, it’s all just an experiment. You all you just get to kind of play with it and see how what is the best message? Or best way for me to relay my message? How am I going to connect with more people, and every time you did dig back into that, why that connection that where it’s truly coming from of what you want to create, and what you’re trying to help, hopefully with the world, then you’re able to just have it grow and let go of expectations.

Alex Beadon 36:41
I’m sure I love all of that. Everything you just said is like, one of the I think it’s one of the big things that stops people from achieving success is that they put so much pressure on this one launch, it’s like, Now or never, you know, and then they fail. And they’re like, Oh, well, it wasn’t meant for me. Whereas you’re just like, I’m just experimenting, and I’m gonna keep experimenting until I find what works. So that is epic. I want to know what you think your experience as a physical therapist? How has it benefited you as an entrepreneur? Like how do you see things differently as a physical therapist, as an entrepreneur?

Jen Esquer 37:23
For me, as a physical therapist, I think it it’s just been a game of how to relate my particular message in terms of what people typically think physical therapy is, and what I’m trying to say about it. I even I met with a chiropractor, a couple a few weeks ago, and he’s like, oh, yeah, well, physical, like I do the chiropractic and then sometimes I send them to physical therapists. And I’m like, Well, what do you think a physical therapist does. Because a lot of times, it’s still the mindset of the chiropractor does the adjustment and the physical therapist does the strengthening. And that’s how we work, right? But in my mindset, it’s like no person who wants to facilitate and help is going to facilitate and help whether that means no matter what that looks like, across the board, because to be honest, physical therapists can do adjustments, we call them manipulation, right? Eye chiropractor can do soft tissue massage and exercise the same way that we can. So it’s, it’s just a person helping and facilitating a person rather than, you know, this is what you know, we do ultrasound, and we do electrical stimulation and this mindset of like, one sided of what a physical therapist is what it does, that we, we you only see a physical therapist after surgery, or you only see a physical therapist of your, if your doctor tells you you need to go see. So just changing the mindset has been really interesting as an entrepreneur, because you don’t see a lot of physical therapists, entrepreneurs. And if they are, they’re usually I think the one who really got us started and did an amazing job is Kelly stret. And he spoken to CrossFitters and read a book and, and really got the idea of biomechanics coming from a physical therapy standpoint. So he did amazing and changing the mindset of fat, but it still gets to shift it still gets to be changed in a lot of people. And so just being an entrepreneur in that way and kind of seeing how can I talk to people that they start to understand what I’m really saying what I mean, what a and getting it out of the mindset of the traditional rehabilitation are boring words that just don’t connect with people. Yeah.

Alex Beadon 39:49
You’re like a natural marketer. I don’t know where this comes from. But you I just am listening to you and I’m like, I hope everyone listening to this is translating it to their own way. Whatever it is that they’re doing, because no matter which field you’re in, you should be looking at it. Like, how can I make this? So me? And so like, how do I make my message stand out? How do I make sure that when someone sees whatever it is that I’ve created, that it immediately captures their attention and really teaches them something new or whatever, I love everything you just said, like that was so so brilliant. And I think it’s just people need to apply it to every single field, like no matter which field you’re in, because it works even as busy like even more. So if your field is super populated online, like you need to learn how to communicate it in a in a unique way. So that was brilliant. I love that. What do you think is one piece of advice that could greatly benefit the life of an online entrepreneur that is most often ignored.

Jen Esquer 40:50
Self Care?

Alex Beadon 40:51
Oh, tell me about that.

Jen Esquer 40:54
Because I think especially even me who’s a physical therapist and and getting other people that move, you know, it’s like I am all of a sudden sitting at my computer for hours on hours. And I’m like, Oh, my God. Self Care is hugely important. Plus, it’s just going to get like, when you’re able to take care of yourself and tap into whatever that is that looks like so whether that’s going to a float tank or getting massage or working out, or you can just got to, you have to kind of sit with your energy, whether that’s meditating, or whatever it looks like for you, but you have to take care of you first, in order for you to be able to translate that out to other people and start to create more and just move your energy. That’s what I usually it’s like, I will get pent up, I’ll get stressed out, moods will start to shift, I’m not going to be able to connect with people if I’m not moving my energy. So I have to my self care for me personally is movement.

Alex Beadon 41:53
Hmm. I like that I was listening to a podcast today actually. And they were talking about how so often, self care is like, you know, meditate or journal or visualize or whatever and actually moving your body and the energy in your body is such a big part of self care.

Jen Esquer 42:09
So huge, so huge. And I don’t even just mean like, pop on a podcast and go for a walk or something. But like get out of your environment that you’re sitting in, especially as a new online entrepreneur, there is so much thinning, there is so much learning there’s is a lot of overwhelm at first. So being able to get out of that environment. And, and yeah, like you said, move the energy just shift and

Alex Beadon 42:37
my next question is, have you ever been given business advice that didn’t sit well with you or just intuitively felt off? And you were like, Oh, that just sounds miserable? Like how do you kind of decipher between this is good business advice that’s pushing me outside of my child, my comfort zone and it’s challenging me and bad business advice, that maybe it’s good and maybe it works, but it just doesn’t feel authentic to

Jen Esquer 43:05
it always has to come it always has to hit me and be able to convey my why if it’s going to take away from my message that I’m trying to share with people even if it might look more attractive, I’m not going to do it right so like for example, I’ve been told I have a new program a membership site and it’s it has functional HIIT workouts and so it does have workouts in it as well as mobility and core. And I was told oh you know you can like on the main sales page, lose fat, lose weight that kind of thing. And I was like no, I can’t do that is not my why that is not my message. Like if I’m getting someone to move and work out it is purely to start to strengthen things they might not know about start to increase the heart rate like I’m looking at it completely functionally I’m they’re not coming to me to lose weight. I’m not their personal trainer and I’m not going to dive into that so if it is not going to get out my why I’m not going to do it even if it would attract more people even if that was not my audience and it’s not what I want to do so that I’m like super adamant about like no

Alex Beadon 44:27
I’m gonna challenge you I’m gonna give you I’d love to know your your thoughts on this. So you know they have these bots right that you can put onto your Instagram account and it will go and like other people’s photos, which is smart because it’s getting your account onto the little notifications of other people’s account which is introducing people to you. Technically it’s not as bad as like the follow unfollow method where like, I think that’s a little bit more slimy. I’d love to know your thoughts on that because I’ve been I’m thinking about this, and I’m so divided part of me is like, I can I can get on board the liking thing, because it’s like, it’s a good marketing technique. It’s getting my name out there, whatever. And it’s it and it works. And then on the other side, I’m like, Ah, it’s just so I don’t know, you know?

Jen Esquer 45:18
Honestly, I would say, well, first of all, I thought they killed a lot of those things. And that wasn’t, so I’d be careful with it. Because Instagram has gotten a lot smarter at that. I know, that was a big thing, like three years ago. I think I did the liking thing for a little bit. Yeah. With one of the apps. So I did, I did use it. And what I say to that is, you know, if it’s something where you’re not buying anyone, and you’re not in like, you’re not

Alex Beadon 45:48
tricking them, anyone? Yeah.

Jen Esquer 45:50
Like, there used to be the ones where you could leave a comment. And you could totally tell that comment has nothing to do that. Awful and so I would I would not go into comments or anything, but like, it is just, you know, maybe you would like it without even knowing, you know, so you don’t you don’t know, it just it’s a like, yeah. way of encouraging someone else. So I don’t think it’s bad. I think it’s bad if you’re going to buy fake followers just to make your following look bigger.

Alex Beadon 46:24
First of all, probably not intelligent.

Jen Esquer 46:26
No, it’s not going to relate to business sales. It’s good that your people are going to find out because your likes your engagement, like things are going to be fishy. It’s just, in that sense, be real. And even if it’s, you know, it is hard to grow nowadays. So if that means you’re doing ads, in terms of getting your face out there more and people can see that still means that people have to go click on you and follow you. Yeah, Bill, for me an authentic way to grow even though you’re paying for ads. Very true not paying for followers. So if that’s the way And granted, I haven’t done any of this, I’ve never paid for anything to increase my page, whether that was a shout out or anything, mine has been purely organic. And I’ve been very grateful for that. But may I do ads at a certain point, maybe possibly. And it’s not that I’m not buying fake followers? Like, you’re just increasing your reach in terms of how many people can see we’re all trying to do that.

Alex Beadon 47:27
Yeah. Oh, I love it. Okay. So much of what you said today was brilliant. Thank you so much for sharing all of your wisdom with us. Before we wrap up, I have a few fire rapid questions. So what is one thing you do that has been a non negotiable in the success of your business movement? Your mindset shift that has made the biggest difference in your life as an entrepreneur,

Jen Esquer 47:55
getting out of my own way, like really getting out of my, like fear mindset. And I did a leadership course. And that honestly helped. Like if I hadn’t done that leadership course, I probably wouldn’t have been able to step up the way I did and connect with.

Alex Beadon 48:11
What was the name of the leadership course?

Jen Esquer 48:13
I did. It’s called ascension Leadership Academy in San Diego. Cool, highly recommended, even if you don’t live in San Diego, Go to it.

Alex Beadon 48:22
Sounds awesome. I’ll be sure to put that in the show notes as well. So people can go and check it out. Fill in the blank the world would we the world would be a better place if more people knew blank.

Jen Esquer 48:34
Wi mobility was important for their bodies.

Alex Beadon 48:39
The book that changed my life was

Jen Esquer 48:45
radical acceptance.

Alex Beadon 48:47
And lastly, this is my favorite thing from every episode, I asked everyone to challenge our audience to do one thing over the next week. So what’s the one thing that you would like all of our listeners to focus on doing?

Jen Esquer 49:03
Tuning into their bodies? And moving?

Alex Beadon 49:07
So okay, let’s just dive into that for one little minute. When you tune into your body, what does that really mean? Like how for someone who doesn’t even understand? How would you explain to them?

Jen Esquer 49:21
That means when you have an ache or pain or you eat something that’s your like, your stomach doesn’t feel good tune into that What did you just eat? Why would you want to put that back in your body? I mean, it’s not about having a diet. It’s just about awareness, taking care of yourself and loving yourself loving yourself so deep that you’re not going to do something that causes pain or causes hurt. And granted, I’m going to be like, You know what, right now I’m gonna have the pizza and my stomach is gonna hurt. So as long as you have that awareness that that’s gonna happen. That’s okay, but but tapping in so maybe it’s like well sitting this way causes pain are sitting in this chair causes pain. So maybe you’re going to shift, you’re going to start to get out of that. Or maybe you’re going to, you know, try a stretch and say, oh, did that get me out of pain? Could I do that? Can I implement that like, one time throughout my day where it takes two seconds, and I’m suddenly able to not have that pain anymore? So tuning in to what, what feels bad, and what feels good.

Alex Beadon 50:29
Thank you so much, Jen. That was awesome. Can you let everyone know where they can find you online and on Instagram?

Jen Esquer 50:37
Yes, Instagram mainly is where I’ll be I try to honestly answer all my DMs. Sometimes it takes me like a month. So be patient. But I do. So doc Jen fit is where I’m at on Instagram website, YouTube, because I am having that up and coming. So other things Dr. unfit.

Alex Beadon 51:02
That’s awesome. Thank you so much, Jen. And I just really appreciate that you came on the show and I loved getting to know you better. And I just am so I love watching online because I feel like you’re such like you’re just so different to everything else that I’ve seen. And I feel like you’re shining in your own way. So thank you for being you and thank you for the work that you do in the world. And thank you for being on the show.

Jen Esquer 51:25
Yeah, thank you for having me. It was so good connecting.

Alex Beadon 51:30
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